obti
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I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Kissing on the first date
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
smooth guy
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You didn't feel like kissing her or you couldn't find the right moment to kiss her?
Sean Stock
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You always kiss the first date or your ****ed. You were just nervous. The moment existed there more than once.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You should be more concerned about whether there will be another date where you could have another chance.obti said:I know this girl likes me and we went on a date last week however i didn't feel a moment when it felt right to kiss her. This worries me.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I went on a date with a chick like 4 months ago, and everything really good. I could see that she was interested in me, we had a lot of fun, and at the end of the night i went for the kiss close. She turned her head and said that she didnt kiss on the first date. Now im 27 and she is 24 and I said to her "what, are we in the 7th grade?" so yeah, she never called me after that, and when i would see her at the gym (where i met her), and at bars, she would act like i was the biggest a$shole on the planet.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
But I always try to kiss close on the first date, and succeed 95% of the time. This was a first for me where the chick told me she didnt kiss on the first date, because in the back of my mind, Ive F closed on the first date and this chick must be a prude or something.
you don't have to kiss on the first date. Imo, it's better not to, but it depends on what you're looking for and how horish the girl is.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
If you've done things correctly, your first date should be an inexpensive 45 minutes at a coffee shop, in which case a kiss would probably be awkward anyway.
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Don't look for the right moment. Create it.
Monkey
Master Don Juan
If shes all over you, DON'T kiss her - it'll drive her completely insane and set you apart from all the other guys.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
It's easy when you are in one of those dark, eclectic, independent shops. I'd avoid Starbucks.The Loacker said:Yeah I prefer coffee shops for first dates, so a kiss doesn't really fit. You could do it if you really wanted to, I guess.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.