I want your opinion on this. I have a hole in this area of my game. I know someone who often kisses a girl on the cheek after getting her number and closing with her. Now I am wondering if this is a good move and whether you have done it yourself. I personally have mainly given a good affectionate hug (without the cheek kiss). I am wondering should you give her a dry kiss or a wet kiss? Whats your experience on this one.
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Kiss (dry or wet?)
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ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
dude...thats weird. I wouldn't try and kiss somebody I just met, cheek or anything. Probably freaks the chicks out.
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MissionX
Don Juan
I would most definatly go for the kiss on the cheek, dry, and short. Why? Because it is who I am.
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So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
That question is a little incomplete... what's the situations where you are asking the number? what kind of vibe?
If I'm at the bar, and talking to a girl and there's a good vibe I'll ususally say 'give me your number so if I lose you later that we can still talk'.
I ususally save a kiss to find out if it's a waste of time quick. A girl will give her number before kissing, but if she gives your number and then kisses you back well that's good.
Last is the kiss test : Where you kiss the girl open mouth, but pull back just a bit too soon. The test is 3 way.
- She pulls away from the kiss = chuck the number she's not all that interested
- she kisses back = you're in, but on a short rope... don't fvck up
- She kisses back and moves in when you pull away = Done! I usually think to myself "you might as well get naked and bend over now, cause you'll just do it later."
If I'm at the bar, and talking to a girl and there's a good vibe I'll ususally say 'give me your number so if I lose you later that we can still talk'.
I ususally save a kiss to find out if it's a waste of time quick. A girl will give her number before kissing, but if she gives your number and then kisses you back well that's good.
Last is the kiss test : Where you kiss the girl open mouth, but pull back just a bit too soon. The test is 3 way.
- She pulls away from the kiss = chuck the number she's not all that interested
- she kisses back = you're in, but on a short rope... don't fvck up
- She kisses back and moves in when you pull away = Done! I usually think to myself "you might as well get naked and bend over now, cause you'll just do it later."
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
Damn dudes, are you guys for real???
I've shagged girls within 15 min of meeting, I mean I'd go to bars and often end up making out with 3-4 girls and leaving with one and 6-7 numbers.
Hell, a good buddy of mine I dunt know how many times he's met girls that drag him to a secluded area within minutes of meeting.
I met a girl at the bar recently and the next day when I show up at her house she answered the door in a towel... nuff said. It happens, stop limiting yourselves.
I've shagged girls within 15 min of meeting, I mean I'd go to bars and often end up making out with 3-4 girls and leaving with one and 6-7 numbers.
Hell, a good buddy of mine I dunt know how many times he's met girls that drag him to a secluded area within minutes of meeting.
I met a girl at the bar recently and the next day when I show up at her house she answered the door in a towel... nuff said. It happens, stop limiting yourselves.
ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
Well Britain's different. Cause thats just the culture around there right? Here in the U.S. kissing is I guess, alot more forward?Ripper said:
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grab her, and just lick her face.Freddy1 said:
I go for the flirty contact on the first date. But not the kiss. Personally, it first took me forever to go for the kiss first, but I was a lot different back then.
ValleyDJing said:
I've always found it the other way around. In the US its fairly normal to get a number and no kiss when on a night out. In England, that would be pretty odd. Usual way it works is meet girl, bit of a chat, make out, get number. Sometimes it goes from there to ONS much like in the states.ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
I just meant like, in England kissing is like a handshake in the U.S. Its a greeting.vorbis said: