"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Kiss (dry or wet?)

Freddy1

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 29, 2005
Messages
563
Reaction score
1
I want your opinion on this. I have a hole in this area of my game. I know someone who often kisses a girl on the cheek after getting her number and closing with her. Now I am wondering if this is a good move and whether you have done it yourself. I personally have mainly given a good affectionate hug (without the cheek kiss). I am wondering should you give her a dry kiss or a wet kiss? Whats your experience on this one.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

ValleyDJing

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 15, 2006
Messages
1,527
Reaction score
14
Location
California
dude...thats weird. I wouldn't try and kiss somebody I just met, cheek or anything. Probably freaks the chicks out.
 

omgwtfm8

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 26, 2006
Messages
166
Reaction score
1
I did last night after meeting this girl for the first time, it was cool. Alcohol induced though. She loved it! Lot's of potential hook-up next time i see her.
 

DonDan

Banned
Joined
Oct 30, 2006
Messages
227
Reaction score
0
My friend always kisses a girls cheek when he meets them... Its the way latin people greet eachother... i dunno if it would work with another nationality dunno.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

MissionX

Don Juan
Joined
Jan 2, 2007
Messages
122
Reaction score
0
Location
Thunder Bay Ontario
I would most definatly go for the kiss on the cheek, dry, and short. Why? Because it is who I am.

Payne
 

So pimp its scary

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 9, 2003
Messages
1,677
Reaction score
3
Age
44
Location
In the C-A-N-A-D-A-Eh!
That question is a little incomplete... what's the situations where you are asking the number? what kind of vibe?

If I'm at the bar, and talking to a girl and there's a good vibe I'll ususally say 'give me your number so if I lose you later that we can still talk'.

I ususally save a kiss to find out if it's a waste of time quick. A girl will give her number before kissing, but if she gives your number and then kisses you back well that's good.

Last is the kiss test : Where you kiss the girl open mouth, but pull back just a bit too soon. The test is 3 way.
- She pulls away from the kiss = chuck the number she's not all that interested
- she kisses back = you're in, but on a short rope... don't fvck up
- She kisses back and moves in when you pull away = Done! I usually think to myself "you might as well get naked and bend over now, cause you'll just do it later."
 

Ripper

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Nov 9, 2006
Messages
345
Reaction score
3
ValleyDJing said:
dude...thats weird. I wouldn't try and kiss somebody I just met, cheek or anything. Probably freaks the chicks out.
Yeah can see why you'd think that but actually it's the done thing in the social circles I move in. Think The O.C. but in Britain.
 

So pimp its scary

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 9, 2003
Messages
1,677
Reaction score
3
Age
44
Location
In the C-A-N-A-D-A-Eh!
Damn dudes, are you guys for real???

I've shagged girls within 15 min of meeting, I mean I'd go to bars and often end up making out with 3-4 girls and leaving with one and 6-7 numbers.

Hell, a good buddy of mine I dunt know how many times he's met girls that drag him to a secluded area within minutes of meeting.

I met a girl at the bar recently and the next day when I show up at her house she answered the door in a towel... nuff said. It happens, stop limiting yourselves.
 

ValleyDJing

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 15, 2006
Messages
1,527
Reaction score
14
Location
California
Ripper said:
Yeah can see why you'd think that but actually it's the done thing in the social circles I move in. Think The O.C. but in Britain.
Well Britain's different. Cause thats just the culture around there right? Here in the U.S. kissing is I guess, alot more forward?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Mental

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
232
Reaction score
2
Location
Michigan
Freddy1 said:
I want your opinion on this. I have a hole in this area of my game. I know someone who often kisses a girl on the cheek after getting her number and closing with her. Now I am wondering if this is a good move and whether you have done it yourself. I personally have mainly given a good affectionate hug (without the cheek kiss). I am wondering should you give her a dry kiss or a wet kiss? Whats your experience on this one.
grab her, and just lick her face. :eek:

I go for the flirty contact on the first date. But not the kiss. Personally, it first took me forever to go for the kiss first, but I was a lot different back then.
 

vorbis

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Dec 18, 2005
Messages
432
Reaction score
2
Location
Boston
ValleyDJing said:
Well Britain's different. Cause thats just the culture around there right? Here in the U.S. kissing is I guess, alot more forward?
:confused: I've always found it the other way around. In the US its fairly normal to get a number and no kiss when on a night out. In England, that would be pretty odd. Usual way it works is meet girl, bit of a chat, make out, get number. Sometimes it goes from there to ONS much like in the states.
 

ValleyDJing

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 15, 2006
Messages
1,527
Reaction score
14
Location
California
vorbis said:
:confused: I've always found it the other way around. In the US its fairly normal to get a number and no kiss when on a night out. In England, that would be pretty odd. Usual way it works is meet girl, bit of a chat, make out, get number. Sometimes it goes from there to ONS much like in the states.
I just meant like, in England kissing is like a handshake in the U.S. Its a greeting.
 
Top