This Times For Real
Don Juan
I read this through for the first time slowly and actually thought about it. thanks pook.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Word......Originally posted by baseballDJ
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I was just sitting in my chair and decided to reread Be A Man and Kill That Desparation. while reading this my thoughts cleared and I went back to the time of my first girl that I got and still had nice guy left in me. I just realized that I had signs of desparation in me.
Thanks for the boost up.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I do not agree with that.Imagine if a woman did all of the above to you. Imagine if a woman was OBSESSED with you, always calling you, always available, and always spending her free time FOR YOU. Any interest you had for this woman would soon evaporate.
Dude, stop and think about your own question for a few minutes. Why should the principles that landed you the girl suddenly change once she is your girlfriend? You think that now you have a license to suffocate the girl? Please think again. Her tolerance for boredom doesn't simply change.jrsully88 said:This seems true if you're in the dating stage of the relationship. Obviously, the attraction will deplate if the guy is always available and not a chase. But, for example, I am in a relationship with a girl and it seems like I want to spend all my free time with her and call her whenever I have a chance. Isn't that love? Should I still play these games to keep the interest level high? Basically, the question I would like to know is if this rule changes once the guy is in a relationship, or if he should still make the girl WANT him.
If you have your life in order, if you have your priorities straight, there should be no need for games, no need for pretense - you will naturally be unavailable.The point is that you should get other stuff in your life going on so that you don't have enough free time to be wanting to call or be with this girl all the time.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.