Kettlebell video from the Olympia

[MetalFortress]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/pavel.mpg

From Dragondoor's booth. Crazy stuff right here, I can flip the kettlebells around but not like THAT, nor can I do pistols (one legged squats) like that.

 

[Saine]

I could easily squat like that with no weight but I just need to know, how many lb. is that kettlebell?

 

[Soshyopathe]

I have a question too. How does flinging weight around like that translate functionally? There's no definite contraction and release. I understand it's cool Russian heritage, but really, wtf? I'm sure there are better alternatives.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Saine
I could easily squat like that with no weight but I just need to know, how many lb. is that kettlebell?

I'm guessing the ones they use for the video are the 54 pounders. They don't look small enough to be 36 pounds or big enough to be 72 (or 88 for that matter) pounds. One guy at DragonDoor can do pistols with two 72 pounders at his shoulders.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Soshyopathe
I have a question too. How does flinging weight around like that translate functionally? There's no definite contraction and release. I understand it's cool Russian heritage, but really, wtf? I'm sure there are better alternatives.

Aside from entertaining the fans, flipping and catching the weight is great for grip strength and ballistic shock as well as hand/eye coordination. My coach does stuff like that (as well as more normal-looking stuff) with the 36 pound bell for high reps, and at age 57 he dropped his bodyfat percentage from 20-22 to 12 percent in a few months. Didn't really diet either, and over the summer he dropped even further down to 10%.

An old friend of mine can flip the 88 pound kettlebell around like that. That's strength for ya ...

 

[Saine]

Quite a feat. -_- I don't like these guys.

 

[Soshyopathe]

I'll agree that hand and grip strength are the best kind to have, but there's got to be more. Do these same guys do squats or snatches or deadlift?

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Soshyopathe
I'll agree that hand and grip strength are the best kind to have, but there's got to be more. Do these same guys do squats or snatches or deadlift?

Yeah, Pavel's book/video Power to the People is about deadlifting and how to use it, and almost all of the guys there deadlift.. Not many do BB snatches but they all do KB snatches. Almost as many of them squat as deadlift.

 

[Saine]

Soshyopathe, aren't you the kid who advocate Shaolin? Just wondering.

 

[Soshyopathe]

one-handed snatches and lumberjack swings (between the legs, over the head) seem to be the only worthwhile motions with these things.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Soshyopathe
one-handed snatches and lumberjack swings (between the legs, over the head) seem to be the only worthwhile motions with these things.

They're certainly not the only worthwhile ones, but they probably are the best ones. One-handed snatches are usually all I do with my KB at home.

 

[Saine]

I do two-handed snatch and clean & jerk. That's about it.
And "that's about it" can kill me!

 

[Saine]

I never heard of lumberjack swing, got anything on it?

Other than that, kettlebell seems to own so far. When I first heard of it, I saw the weights. I thought 33 lb. was nothing, 60 lb. was nothing, then I went to the gym to test out 80 lb. I couldn't budge anything. -_- Quite a humiliation eh? The kid you saw trying to swing the 80 lb. was me. Lol.

What's the difference between swinging dumbbell and kettlebell?
It just seem to feel different but not much different.

 

[MetalFortress]

Lumberjack swing just sounds like a two-armed swing to me. Swings are one thing that don't feel much different, but clean and jerks, snatches, squat pulls etc are much different.

 

[Saine]

How so? How is snatch not swinging? You pull your back up and throw as fast as you can your arms up with the kb as if you were pulling the lawn mowner.

 

[MetalFortress]

Not even close kid. A snatch is where you drive it up with your lower body (NOT YOUR ARMS), and "catch" the ball of the kettlebell on the back of your wrist. A swing is where you do NOT stop the motion, but instead just let it swing back down.