"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just wanted to get this straight

DJnoob

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So, IT IS harder to make friend (meaning exchanging numbers and hanging out) with women with boyfriends? I'm talking about friends as in just friends like your male friends. No interest whatsoever in her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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milrenkb

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Your question is way to open man. Hate to give you this generic answer but it depends on the girl and her boyfriend. However you shouldn't be worried about that. Theres plenty of cool girls out there you can make friends with as a way of gaining access to other social networks.
 

DJnoob

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milrenkb said:
Your question is way to open man. Hate to give you this generic answer but it depends on the girl and her boyfriend. However you shouldn't be worried about that. Theres plenty of cool girls out there you can make friends with as a way of gaining access to other social networks.
Depends on the girl and her BF?... can you please provide scenarios.

Well as for this girl.. she usually comes down and works at my store during vacations from school for 1-2 months and goes back UC Long Beach at the end of her break .. Im assuming her BF lives in L.A. where she goes to school.
 

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yeah it's funny because most girls think you want to have sex with them they no i have a boyfriend i'm like look i just want to play basketball or something i don't want to bone you
 

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The fact that you have no interest whatsoever in her but still hang out with her will make her automatically have interest in you which means she does not want to be friends with you.. and may actually prefer you to bone her.

If you had interest in her, it would be a lot easier to be just friends with her.

LOL.. Just fall in love with her or something.
She'll see you as harmless and want you to hang around and have harmless fun.

- If she's really hot. That's probally what is happening.
If she's not that hot, then she could just not be use to having guy as just friends and have only ever hung out with girls.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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hahaha

DJnoob said:
So, IT IS harder to make friend (meaning exchanging numbers and hanging out) with women with boyfriends? I'm talking about friends as in just friends like your male friends. No interest whatsoever in her.
seee.. thats what I would say to a girl that I would want to get in her panties NSA.... i.e. ohhh just "friends"... I am harmless.... lol... if she hot, and she drunk and asks for you to put your finger in her ass... I am sure you would

lol
 

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DJN finally makes a good point.

DJnoob your telling me you want to spend time with her but would never ever do anything sexual with her ever?
 

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Bvbidd said:
DJN finally makes a good point.

DJnoob your telling me you want to spend time with her but would never ever do anything sexual with her ever?
Nope. I just want her as social proof. But if it ever comes across.. hey, why not.
 
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