I've never had much success with girls. I'm ok looking, in good shape, an ok guy ect and I've always attributed not getting laid to me not having the balls to approach. This semester I finally "manned up" and have been approaching a lot of women and taking a lot of risks....and still nothing. I see uglier and more annoying people then me getting hooked up and it just doesn't happen for me for some reason. I naturally have a **** kind of personality (old-fashioned irish male type) but I'm not sure what else I could do differently.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Just dont know what the problem is
- Thread starter SamMalone
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
i kind of disagree with you, if you become friends with them, then you're in the friendzone. so getting laid of any sort is out of the question... i'm in the friendzone with this girl, and trust me, its hard to get out! what do you guys think?Leporello said:It's not enough to just 'approach'; usually you actually have to be friends with them. How's that going?
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Senior Don Juan
they say kino & sexual undertones will abolish the friendzone. I don't know if this is the truth.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Instead of 'friends' I should've said 'friendly'. Point is, they have to be comfortable with going out and doing stuff with you, otherwise you're stuck.yama600rr said:i kind of disagree with you, if you become friends with them, then you're in the friendzone. so getting laid of any sort is out of the question... i'm in the friendzone with this girl, and trust me, its hard to get out! what do you guys think?
tell us how you approach exactly.SamMalone said:I've never had much success with girls. I'm ok looking, in good shape, an ok guy ect and I've always attributed not getting laid to me not having the balls to approach. This semester I finally "manned up" and have been approaching a lot of women and taking a lot of risks....and still nothing. I see uglier and more annoying people then me getting hooked up and it just doesn't happen for me for some reason. I naturally have a **** kind of personality (old-fashioned irish male type) but I'm not sure what else I could do differently.
I was just like you in college and what turned it around for me was just getting the attitude that I didn't give a ****. It still applies to me today in fact. If I am worried about impressing some girl or meeting someone, I always clam up and come off really poorly. Just go into it just trying to have fun and whatever happens you are cool with it. Just don't seem desperate. Girls can smell that a mile away. If you can take spring break in costa rica and have model-quality chicks begging for you , that would help too. It certainly did for me back in the day. It's all about confidence. Good luck.