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That’s also a possibility.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
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My man. I told you what time it was and you handled your business!
ivlvs_veridivs
Don Juan
Hey everyone. I'm going to post the lay report and give a couple of updates on the other girls.
I was planning on writing this sooner, but I had a reunion with a friend that involved some BBQ, w33d, and beers.
For reference, I actually go to the gym, lift weights, and run at least nine miles a week. Right now I'm doing three miles in about 27 minutes, and I'm trying to bring that down to 25. Gotta put in the work if you're going to ask the same from the world, I think.
Anyway, onto girl #3 and the LR.
I confirmed with her that I'd be at her place around 22:00. She agreed, so the plan was on.
I got out of work, drove over, knocked on the door, and went inside. She's moving out because she's going to live in another state, so my guess is that she basically threw all her previous reservations out the window. Remember, she gave me LMR the first time she was at my place. This time I think her attitude was basically, "**** it, this guy is kind of cute. I'll **** him before I leave."
I showed up with a joint because "the plan" was supposedly to "smoke together," but to my surprise she told me, "Oh, I actually can't do that. I'm getting tested for a new job."
I interpreted that as, "Yeah, that was just the excuse to get you over here."
Also, when I arrived, she was wearing a top with a great neckline, makeup on, and her hair carefully done. Who TF gets dressed like that at 22:00 unless she's at least trying to look attractive for you? lol.
At that point I assumed something was going to happen, so I decided to **** around a little and build the tension slowly instead of rushing it. You know, have fun because IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN.
I sat down on the floor, she had basically no furniture left because she was selling everything before moving, and pulled her down next to me. We started talking, teasing each other, and laughing.
I escalated kino gradually and kept it playful. About ten minutes before we eventually left for my place, I started pushing things further: hand on her leg, playing with her hair, kissing her cheeks, and eventually making out.
At one point I was on top of her, but it was like ****ing 86 degrees inside, so she said, "What if we go to your place and you bring me back in the morning? You've got better A/C than I do."
I said, "Yeah, sure. No problem."
On the drive over, we talked about some more personal stuff. I read a lot of philosophy and try to read a ton of literature, but I usually save that side of myself until there's more comfort and the girl starts steering the conversation in that direction. Otherwise, I can probably bore someone to tears with all my talking lol. Instead of regurgitating everything I've ever read, I usually just make the occasional deeper or more insightful comment and see where she takes it. My hand was on her thigh during the drive, and I kept touching her playfully.
Once we got to my place, I offered her a beer. I always have imported beers around. It's just a thing I do: I like going through the beer aisle at the supermarket, finding something from a country I haven't tried before, and buying a couple. She grabbed one. I think it was from the Netherlands.
We went to my bedroom, started fooling around, got undressed, and did the thing.
After working out consistently for a while, I can definitely say my stamina and strength aren't bad. She orgasmed four times during the first session alone lol. Afterward, I went out to buy something else to drink. When I came back, she was completely asleep, so I figured my job was done.
From that point on, the dynamic between us became extremely sexual. She was constantly asking for more sex, touching me, initiating, etc.
Unfortunately, she had to leave this past Sunday. We still exchange messages and all that. Maybe I'll see her again if I ever visit the state she's living in now.
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Girl #1.
This is the girl I had to travel pretty far to see and with whom I escalated very slowly.
Things died.
I feel pretty stupid for not escalating more on the first date. I know I compensated during the second date, but still, escalating earlier would have saved me TIME AND MONEY.
I think I've reached the conclusion that it's better to get a "not yet" than to do absolutely nothing.
If a girl is genuinely interested, a calibrated "not yet" doesn't necessarily kill anything. She'll usually stay engaged and invest in building more comfort and spending more time with you. Obviously, this only applies if you're escalating in a socially calibrated way and not acting creepy, pushy, or desperate.
Things died because, remember, I had asked her about seeing each other again at night and told her I'd pay for an Airbnb?
She answered my messages earlier in the week UNTIL I finally asked, "So what's up? Are we seeing each other this Saturday?"
She didn't even open the message.
Just ghosted me lol.
Live and learn.
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Now onto girl #2, the hot one I originally met blindly and took to that Tim Burton event.
I asked her out last week. I was going to have either Friday or Saturday available, and she told me she could only do Friday, so we agreed on that.
I think we made the plans on Tuesday.
Then on Friday she sent me another message: "Hey, I'm really sorry. I'm not going to be able to make it. I'm arranging some things at the house I just got, and I'm going to be really busy."
So I answered something along the lines of: "Thanks for letting me know. I think it'll be better if we do things like we did last time. Let me know when you're available."
The reason I said that is because the first time I asked her out, she wasn't available either, but SHE was the one who actually suggested another time and invited me out later. So now I've basically let her know that the ball is in her court.
Messaging with this chick is kind of strange.
Sometimes she takes a long time to answer, occasionally a full day, and then other times she's extremely engaged. The important thing is that when she does answer, she usually contributes to the conversation. It's not just dry "yes/no" responses. She actually gives me something to work with.
So I think I'm going to play this one carefully and simply match her level of investment.
If she's interested and becomes more available, she knows she can ask me out or suggest another day.
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Haven't seen girl #4 yet.
I was planning on writing this sooner, but I had a reunion with a friend that involved some BBQ, w33d, and beers.
For reference, I actually go to the gym, lift weights, and run at least nine miles a week. Right now I'm doing three miles in about 27 minutes, and I'm trying to bring that down to 25. Gotta put in the work if you're going to ask the same from the world, I think.
Anyway, onto girl #3 and the LR.
I confirmed with her that I'd be at her place around 22:00. She agreed, so the plan was on.
I got out of work, drove over, knocked on the door, and went inside. She's moving out because she's going to live in another state, so my guess is that she basically threw all her previous reservations out the window. Remember, she gave me LMR the first time she was at my place. This time I think her attitude was basically, "**** it, this guy is kind of cute. I'll **** him before I leave."
I showed up with a joint because "the plan" was supposedly to "smoke together," but to my surprise she told me, "Oh, I actually can't do that. I'm getting tested for a new job."
I interpreted that as, "Yeah, that was just the excuse to get you over here."
Also, when I arrived, she was wearing a top with a great neckline, makeup on, and her hair carefully done. Who TF gets dressed like that at 22:00 unless she's at least trying to look attractive for you? lol.
At that point I assumed something was going to happen, so I decided to **** around a little and build the tension slowly instead of rushing it. You know, have fun because IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN.
I sat down on the floor, she had basically no furniture left because she was selling everything before moving, and pulled her down next to me. We started talking, teasing each other, and laughing.
I escalated kino gradually and kept it playful. About ten minutes before we eventually left for my place, I started pushing things further: hand on her leg, playing with her hair, kissing her cheeks, and eventually making out.
At one point I was on top of her, but it was like ****ing 86 degrees inside, so she said, "What if we go to your place and you bring me back in the morning? You've got better A/C than I do."
I said, "Yeah, sure. No problem."
On the drive over, we talked about some more personal stuff. I read a lot of philosophy and try to read a ton of literature, but I usually save that side of myself until there's more comfort and the girl starts steering the conversation in that direction. Otherwise, I can probably bore someone to tears with all my talking lol. Instead of regurgitating everything I've ever read, I usually just make the occasional deeper or more insightful comment and see where she takes it. My hand was on her thigh during the drive, and I kept touching her playfully.
Once we got to my place, I offered her a beer. I always have imported beers around. It's just a thing I do: I like going through the beer aisle at the supermarket, finding something from a country I haven't tried before, and buying a couple. She grabbed one. I think it was from the Netherlands.
We went to my bedroom, started fooling around, got undressed, and did the thing.
After working out consistently for a while, I can definitely say my stamina and strength aren't bad. She orgasmed four times during the first session alone lol. Afterward, I went out to buy something else to drink. When I came back, she was completely asleep, so I figured my job was done.
From that point on, the dynamic between us became extremely sexual. She was constantly asking for more sex, touching me, initiating, etc.
Unfortunately, she had to leave this past Sunday. We still exchange messages and all that. Maybe I'll see her again if I ever visit the state she's living in now.
-------------------------------------------
Girl #1.
This is the girl I had to travel pretty far to see and with whom I escalated very slowly.
Things died.
I feel pretty stupid for not escalating more on the first date. I know I compensated during the second date, but still, escalating earlier would have saved me TIME AND MONEY.
I think I've reached the conclusion that it's better to get a "not yet" than to do absolutely nothing.
If a girl is genuinely interested, a calibrated "not yet" doesn't necessarily kill anything. She'll usually stay engaged and invest in building more comfort and spending more time with you. Obviously, this only applies if you're escalating in a socially calibrated way and not acting creepy, pushy, or desperate.
Things died because, remember, I had asked her about seeing each other again at night and told her I'd pay for an Airbnb?
She answered my messages earlier in the week UNTIL I finally asked, "So what's up? Are we seeing each other this Saturday?"
She didn't even open the message.
Just ghosted me lol.
Live and learn.
---------------------------------
Now onto girl #2, the hot one I originally met blindly and took to that Tim Burton event.
I asked her out last week. I was going to have either Friday or Saturday available, and she told me she could only do Friday, so we agreed on that.
I think we made the plans on Tuesday.
Then on Friday she sent me another message: "Hey, I'm really sorry. I'm not going to be able to make it. I'm arranging some things at the house I just got, and I'm going to be really busy."
So I answered something along the lines of: "Thanks for letting me know. I think it'll be better if we do things like we did last time. Let me know when you're available."
The reason I said that is because the first time I asked her out, she wasn't available either, but SHE was the one who actually suggested another time and invited me out later. So now I've basically let her know that the ball is in her court.
Messaging with this chick is kind of strange.
Sometimes she takes a long time to answer, occasionally a full day, and then other times she's extremely engaged. The important thing is that when she does answer, she usually contributes to the conversation. It's not just dry "yes/no" responses. She actually gives me something to work with.
So I think I'm going to play this one carefully and simply match her level of investment.
If she's interested and becomes more available, she knows she can ask me out or suggest another day.
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Haven't seen girl #4 yet.