"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's official, hotornot.com is ridiculous.

nishbuk

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Okay, so we all probably realize that the very premise of a site like hotornot.com is pretty ridiculous if one is trying to get any type of accuracy in their rating...We know this.

But I've always been looking for confirmation of this, so that ppl on here will finally stop using it as place to guage looks. Why, you ask?

It's because guys, more often than girls are more often not considered "universally hot", but rather, can be considered very good looking by one girl, and disgusting by another. This doesn't hold so much for women, as men do tend to be more universally selective when it comes to choosing women based on looks. (There is a clinical study which shows this, but I don't remember where it is. It was in the psych databse that my school has access to).

So anyway, I finally found some solid evidence that hotornot.com is full of shyte with respect to men. Now don't get me wrong, I know where I stand. I'm not a knockout, but I'm not bad looking either. I'm probably around 7-7.5 for most women, but my body is a 9 (would be a ten if I was taller. I'm an elite athlete)

I posted 4 pics. All different pics.

One sitting, hands behind head with a big smile:
Avg rating was 6.7. 50 votes

One standing same big smile, shirtless, six-pack showing, different head rotation:
Avg rating 8.9 54 votes

One shirtless, with my fight gear on, hands in the air jokingly:
Avg rating was 7.9 90 votes.

One showing ONLY mid-torso (solar plexus and up) wearing an Armani suit, 45 degree profile view.
Avg ratin 9.9 50 votes...

I mean wtf...It's not even consistant within 1.5 points.
So finally, as we've been preaching over and over again in this forum, looks are not a deal breaker. If you have sufficient other qualities and you do the best with what you have (great body, clean your skin up, good haircut), you can get above avg. women, even if you are below avg.
Of course there are always some chicks who are shallow, but you don't want that type anyway. So can we have the newbies on this board stop harping about how "they can never get a quality chick because no matter what they do they are just ugly."
Just get someone like those "queer eye for the straight guy" d00ds to fix you up. You just have to do the best with what you got.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ratings on hotornot are ridiculous.

However, it's a great way to meet hot girls.

You don't have to be put up for ratings to meet people.
 

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they always give you a high rating for some reason regardless of what pic yu put up. Is there a more realistic sight?
 

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Well who knows, maybe Hot or Not is 100% full on right. I mean, if you sat in some gay pose and made a goofy smile and we asked a bunch of girls to rate you, I don't imagine they'd all give you 10s. But then we could put you in an armani suit and ask some girls to rate you, it'd be a lot higher.

As an experiment, we should take an ugly little guy and pose him with a whole bunch of hot babes, I mean like 2 girls on each side, all 9's. We could post his picture like that and test the theory that hot girls make an ugly guy seem more attractive.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
Well who knows, maybe Hot or Not is 100% full on right. I mean, if you sat in some gay pose and made a goofy smile and we asked a bunch of girls to rate you, I don't imagine they'd all give you 10s. But then we could put you in an armani suit and ask some girls to rate you, it'd be a lot higher.

As an experiment, we should take an ugly little guy and pose him with a whole bunch of hot babes, I mean like 2 girls on each side, all 9's. We could post his picture like that and test the theory that hot girls make an ugly guy seem more attractive.
hey, if I have free time I'll photoshop that, and try it...seems interesting
 

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Originally posted by BrotherAP
Well who knows, maybe Hot or Not is 100% full on right. I mean, if you sat in some gay pose and made a goofy smile and we asked a bunch of girls to rate you, I don't imagine they'd all give you 10s. But then we could put you in an armani suit and ask some girls to rate you, it'd be a lot higher.

As an experiment, we should take an ugly little guy and pose him with a whole bunch of hot babes, I mean like 2 girls on each side, all 9's. We could post his picture like that and test the theory that hot girls make an ugly guy seem more attractive.
I can see the point you are trying to make, and yeah, I think you're right. You're basically saying that context matters. And you are 100% right on I think. So basically I guess the lesson to take from this, is to ensure that the context in which you live your life (be it your looks, your success, your friends, your attitude) should ALWAYS be at a level that will make you a "10". :)

Good post.
 

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hmm so would the picture I got with the girls at Hooters do anything for my rating? Sounds like an experiment...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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