She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Any time I'm faced with this it feels impossible. Those following my other thread will see I'm dealing with that now myself. But now I know from experience that if I can stick it out, the result may or may not be what I'd originally intended, but either way there's an overwhelming feeling of having my dignity in tact. And that's a high that I can usually use to propel me to a new plate.samspade said:The better response: Back off twice as hard. Go ghost. She texts/calls, don't answer. Let it simmer. Go open some new girls.
I know, sounds easy, but if you do instead of think, in this case it'll make you feel better.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
What happened with the girl?noheroes said:I think if you ghost a girl like that and forget about her, it's actually much easier to reset and start over again down the line. I've done this a couple times - girl has gotten distant, so I next her and then down the line she's all about me again when we happen to meet.
One girl told me I was the most attractive man she'd ever been with, and proceeded to f*ck me after ten months in the cooler. I had hard ghosted her and started bringing other girls into her work (a bar I love). I was friendly but never flirty, and she came around. The trick was not caring at all.
Girls are like cats - they don't have a long term memory for a lot of things. As long as you stay Alpha and move on, it's possible to restart the interaction in the future. The key is ACTUALLY moving on.
Should have come to bible study OP.Pook said:"Judge by actions, not by words."
Well said. Dignity. You want her to come back around? Maintain that. You start calling the shots. She flaked? Unacceptable, next her. Then, she texts you a week later....TheCWord said:if I can stick it out, the result may or may not be what I'd originally intended, but either way there's an overwhelming feeling of having my dignity in tact.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
To make me next her in the first place? She was flirty with another guy in front of me, when I'd specifically come to her bar with the intention of taking her home after her shift (and had made that clear). I'm don't expect monogamy when I'm not willing to give it, but I don't cross wires and I expect the same of my plates. I was friendly and unreactive when I saw her, but basically friendzoned her until she invited me to dinner a month or so ago, paid for it, and then f*cked me a couple days later.TheCWord said:What happened with the girl?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
you shouldn't care, you give her a chance to be with you she didn't take it, so its her loss.t510 said:Any other thoughts?