"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Is this girl dateable for me?

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I'm 30 - she is 20

- VERY cute face, very curvy, tall body. She is about 15-20 lbs too heavy for me but today she asked me if I can train her (I said absolutely). Her body will be 100/10 once she dials it in a little bit. She has exactly the body type I want - huge ass, huge legs, wide hips small waist, etc...

- in school to be a doctor. This is a big turn off for me. I really wish she just had a normal job. Med school is very hard and stressful, residency is awful. I don't want her to work these crazy hours

- genuinely very good person. Always on time on our dates, never flakes on me, never ignores my texts. I've actually flaked on her twice and she was very interested in me anyways, not materialistic, not superficial. Really is a good person


Is it worth it for me to pursue this?
 

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She looks a lot older than 20, I'd think she was around my age, late twenties or so.

Anyway, she is attractive and obviously intelligent, has goals, interests, etc.....which is something that the vast majority of women in their 20s cannot say for themselves lol. I also see that you wrote about enjoying her personality and that she comes across as genuine and does not plan mind games, again something that is rare for a lot of young women.

However, while others might make fun of you for seeing her career choice as a potential issue I do in fact see how you might feel that way. I might be incorrect, but it appears that you view this woman as a potential long term girlfriend. You recognize that her career choice may be problematic in that she will have very little, if any, time to spend with you and that is in fact an issue. This is something you'll have to answer for yourself and not something a bunch of random posters on a forum can solve for you.

I personally would not be interested in getting into a relationship with someone who I could barely spend time with, I'd just see that as a waste instead of just meeting other women who are more available.
 
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A bit shallow, no? Why not date and see if you mesh well; if that is what you want to do. Why are you planning so far down the line? Just hang out with her and see where it goes. A wise man once told me it's much easier to get a lady to lose weight than to get a b!tchy lady to turn into a kind generous lady.
 
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OP, if you are in the NY Metro area, PM me her contact info and I'll test her out for you. I'll get her ass in shape and prime everything up for ya. ;'p
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Atom Smasher said:
That was Bigdave masquerading as a new member.
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You're probably not going to reveal the secret, but I am curious about how you guys figure that out. I'm thinking IP or email, but surely you can ban an IP or email address. So what identifier is left if they don't reuse any of those?
 
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Grewd said:
You're probably not going to reveal the secret, but I am curious about how you guys figure that out. I'm thinking IP or email, but surely you can ban an IP or email address. So what identifier is left if they don't reuse any of those?
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His thought process
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Its so easy to spot Dave.

He is always trying to find reason to not go for the girl.
 
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i'm curious other then alwyas find a reason to not date, why was he banned anyway?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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