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Master Don Juan
joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
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This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
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This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Mr.Positive said:Well, the real deal is there is no HB10s or HB9, etc. There's just women, and us men.
There's women that we find attractive, and there's the women that find us attractive.
I'm starting to think this HB rating system is pure BS. My HB10 may be Joekerr's HB8, and Str8up, well..it would probably be a HB5 to him.![]()
I guess what I'm saying is that attraction is subjective. I'll focus on the women that bring out that attraction, and I'll work on generating that same attraction with them.
So, for what it's worth, I'm going for my HB10. I see no reason to settle, even though other's may think she's a HB8, 7, whatever..
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
In the spirit of this reality base thread I think that should be stated, "We have the power to get better looking by working out and eating right"st_99 said:Oh, and another thing. We all have the power to get good looking by working out and eating right.
Of course, easier said than done for most people.
STR8UP said:So should guys learn to be happy with less attractive women? Well, if they notice a pattern that longing for or chasing women who are high on the looks scale is holding him back, then yea, it might be time to look at whether or not he is being a bit unrealistic. Doesn't mean ANYONE should settle, it just means that they should make sure that they are measuring with their OWN scale, and not society's scale.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.guru1000 said:Choice B - Increase the standards in yourself.
ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
Exactly.ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
STR8UP said:So yea, as Rollo says, "Don't wish the game was easier, wish you were better" or something like that. There is ALWAYS room for improvement, looks and otherwise.
joekerr31 said:and you know, i use to buy into this. and its a great example of how the DJ matrix is simply the other side of the same coin.
what im beginning to think, strongly at that, is that becoming better at the game doesn't make you better, it just makes you more a part of the game.
im saying perhaps by 'unplugging' from the game you enter into a whole different way of experiencing life - and could it be one that delivers everything you could ever want.
sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
but to do this its a 3 step process like i describe above.
Impossible. Unless you retire to a cabin in the middle of Alaska where a bush plane has to fly in your mac and cheese every week.joekerr31 said:sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
What's the point in disqualifying yourself before you even MEET this girl?Mr.Positive said:You start living life in the now. Focus on bettering yourself as a man, for yourself, strive to be the best YOU that you can be, but not to impress some HB!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.