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Master Don Juan
joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
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This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
/QUOTE]
This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Mr.Positive said:Well, the real deal is there is no HB10s or HB9, etc. There's just women, and us men.
There's women that we find attractive, and there's the women that find us attractive.
I'm starting to think this HB rating system is pure BS. My HB10 may be Joekerr's HB8, and Str8up, well..it would probably be a HB5 to him.![]()
I guess what I'm saying is that attraction is subjective. I'll focus on the women that bring out that attraction, and I'll work on generating that same attraction with them.
So, for what it's worth, I'm going for my HB10. I see no reason to settle, even though other's may think she's a HB8, 7, whatever..
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
In the spirit of this reality base thread I think that should be stated, "We have the power to get better looking by working out and eating right"st_99 said:Oh, and another thing. We all have the power to get good looking by working out and eating right.
Of course, easier said than done for most people.
STR8UP said:So should guys learn to be happy with less attractive women? Well, if they notice a pattern that longing for or chasing women who are high on the looks scale is holding him back, then yea, it might be time to look at whether or not he is being a bit unrealistic. Doesn't mean ANYONE should settle, it just means that they should make sure that they are measuring with their OWN scale, and not society's scale.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.guru1000 said:Choice B - Increase the standards in yourself.
ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
Exactly.ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
STR8UP said:So yea, as Rollo says, "Don't wish the game was easier, wish you were better" or something like that. There is ALWAYS room for improvement, looks and otherwise.
joekerr31 said:and you know, i use to buy into this. and its a great example of how the DJ matrix is simply the other side of the same coin.
what im beginning to think, strongly at that, is that becoming better at the game doesn't make you better, it just makes you more a part of the game.
im saying perhaps by 'unplugging' from the game you enter into a whole different way of experiencing life - and could it be one that delivers everything you could ever want.
sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
but to do this its a 3 step process like i describe above.
Impossible. Unless you retire to a cabin in the middle of Alaska where a bush plane has to fly in your mac and cheese every week.joekerr31 said:sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
What's the point in disqualifying yourself before you even MEET this girl?Mr.Positive said:You start living life in the now. Focus on bettering yourself as a man, for yourself, strive to be the best YOU that you can be, but not to impress some HB!
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.