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joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
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This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
joekerr31 said:.... instead of focusing on getting the hottest woman you can, instead focus on getting a woman that is best suited for you.
/QUOTE]
This is the essence of DJ maturity.
Well put, JK
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Mr.Positive said:Well, the real deal is there is no HB10s or HB9, etc. There's just women, and us men.
There's women that we find attractive, and there's the women that find us attractive.
I'm starting to think this HB rating system is pure BS. My HB10 may be Joekerr's HB8, and Str8up, well..it would probably be a HB5 to him.![]()
I guess what I'm saying is that attraction is subjective. I'll focus on the women that bring out that attraction, and I'll work on generating that same attraction with them.
So, for what it's worth, I'm going for my HB10. I see no reason to settle, even though other's may think she's a HB8, 7, whatever..
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
In the spirit of this reality base thread I think that should be stated, "We have the power to get better looking by working out and eating right"st_99 said:Oh, and another thing. We all have the power to get good looking by working out and eating right.
Of course, easier said than done for most people.
STR8UP said:So should guys learn to be happy with less attractive women? Well, if they notice a pattern that longing for or chasing women who are high on the looks scale is holding him back, then yea, it might be time to look at whether or not he is being a bit unrealistic. Doesn't mean ANYONE should settle, it just means that they should make sure that they are measuring with their OWN scale, and not society's scale.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.guru1000 said:Choice B - Increase the standards in yourself.
ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
Exactly.ketostix said:I think what people are saying is you can't take Bill Gates and turn him into Brad Pitt. Not even with reconstructive and plastic surgery and especially not with just changing his attitude and the words he uses. Now I know someones going to say, Bill Gates could get as many girls as Brad Pitt. That's not the point . He's stil never going to be a sex symbol and there's a limit to how much change/improve any person can make. Not everyone has the same potential for the same things.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
STR8UP said:So yea, as Rollo says, "Don't wish the game was easier, wish you were better" or something like that. There is ALWAYS room for improvement, looks and otherwise.
joekerr31 said:and you know, i use to buy into this. and its a great example of how the DJ matrix is simply the other side of the same coin.
what im beginning to think, strongly at that, is that becoming better at the game doesn't make you better, it just makes you more a part of the game.
im saying perhaps by 'unplugging' from the game you enter into a whole different way of experiencing life - and could it be one that delivers everything you could ever want.
sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
but to do this its a 3 step process like i describe above.
Impossible. Unless you retire to a cabin in the middle of Alaska where a bush plane has to fly in your mac and cheese every week.joekerr31 said:sounds crazy, but unplugging from 'the game' is what im talking about, all facets of it. it doesn't mean to stop living, in fact the opposite. it means to start living, but without all these rules and concepts of how to behave - to be authentic in yoru experience of life.
What's the point in disqualifying yourself before you even MEET this girl?Mr.Positive said:You start living life in the now. Focus on bettering yourself as a man, for yourself, strive to be the best YOU that you can be, but not to impress some HB!
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.