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Just a question that me and a friend were discussing yesterday. We couldn't agree on it. My friend said yes, I said no.
Discuss?
Discuss?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Is It Possible For A Virgin Girl To Experience Love?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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This is retarded. What are you saying that love=sex? I dont think so.
I've also looked at your other thread. Are you starting to get soft or something?
I've also looked at your other thread. Are you starting to get soft or something?
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My other thread about liking friendly girls?Luke Skywalker said:
Anyway, I do think love and sex are related. I can't see how a girl could experience love without having sex. Why is that retarded? For a girl to be in love with a guy, they have to have sex in order to know if they truly want to be with him or not. Without sex, there's no reason for attachment. There's also no real connection.
On that note, that's why I think telling some guys to "marry only virgins" is bad advice. Because, sure you could marry a virgin, but more often than not I would bet it wouldn't work out. If she's never experienced love before, how will she know how to love?
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Is your mother a girl? Does she love you? If she does, ummm... Well...~attrACTION~ said:
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If she's never experienced love before, how will she know how to love?
And on the other side of the coin you could say a non virgin has experienced love, but when it doesn't work out she takes a more cynical view of it. (I.E. women sleeping around to find "love") Her love for someone radiates less for another because she's already experienced the highs and lows of it.
Alot of that goes on around here. People mistake "LOVE" for lust also.
I think it's very true that you can't experience man-woman love without first having sex. Sex only tightens that bond. (By design of course). I mean a virgin can have love for someone, but without sex I think it's the kind of love you have for your close friends or family.
Sex is suppose to create a bond, but many people pervert it.
And on the other side of the coin you could say a non virgin has experienced love, but when it doesn't work out she takes a more cynical view of it. (I.E. women sleeping around to find "love") Her love for someone radiates less for another because she's already experienced the highs and lows of it.
Alot of that goes on around here. People mistake "LOVE" for lust also.
I think it's very true that you can't experience man-woman love without first having sex. Sex only tightens that bond. (By design of course). I mean a virgin can have love for someone, but without sex I think it's the kind of love you have for your close friends or family.
Sex is suppose to create a bond, but many people pervert it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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But his mother had sex with his father.Francisco d'Anconia said:
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What about if the girl is a slvt or a ho that you are paying for? You may feel some sort of release, but how could that be love? Do you mean to qualify what you mean by sex?ThunderMaverick said:
Is it possible for a prostitute or a slvt sleeping with many guys to know what love means as compared to a virgin girl? What about a nun?
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I didn't mean that kind of love. I meant loving a guy who is not family.Francisco d'Anconia said:
Yeah, that's basically what I meant.ThunderMaverick said:
Francisco d'Anconia
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His mother's love for his father wasn't in question...Luke Skywalker said:
Francisco d'Anconia
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Do you guys realize that there's a difference between love and lust?~attrACTION~ said:
Here's a consideration, an man and woman meet and begin a relationship. Because of a medical condition of one of the two they are not able to to have sex (no, the little blue pill won't work and there is and untreatable pelvic or neurological problem). Would it be impossible for them to fall in love?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Yes, I do realize that there's a difference. But what I'm saying is how can you have love (man and woman who are not family), without lust/sex? You can't really, or it can't be that deep.Francisco d'Anconia said:
Sex makes you think that you have a connection deeper than you really do. In reality, it is just a bunch of drugs that you two are sharing. IF/when sex trails off, you're always bound to discover that the two of you don't have as much in common as you really thought.
That's why it's fukking crazy to get married based on a relationship initiated sexually that's been only going on for a few months to a year. The majority of that relationship will be based on sex and all the other actions contained in it will be painted with that sex euphoria.
Personally, I do not equate sex with love. I agree with Francisisco on this one.
That's why it's fukking crazy to get married based on a relationship initiated sexually that's been only going on for a few months to a year. The majority of that relationship will be based on sex and all the other actions contained in it will be painted with that sex euphoria.
Personally, I do not equate sex with love. I agree with Francisisco on this one.
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This is all a moot point. Virgin girls are extinct.
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That is true for most males and that is what creates contention with women when you are in a relationship. Women typically need more than just sex to gain that level of feeling.~attrACTION~ said:
More times than not, unless that feeling is there first the sex will only sustain the relationship for a limited amount of time before the woman starts becoming bored and possible looking at other avenues to fulfill that need.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Yes - virgins actually love more since they are not blinded by sex and their feeling of love is not influenced by the flesh!
Sex brings the euphoric "illusion of love" - it is NOT love! As Thundermaverick said, sex is a bonding force but first you must have something greater than sex to hold you together when hardships come - love is that bonding force which is a greater force than sex!!
Love relates to the spirit of a person - sex deals with the physical flesh - the spirit is on a much higher plane than the aging flesh,whose worth is determined by our eyes! So sex is less appealing with your wife when she is 19 and 120 pounds versus 52 and 300 pounds. But she remains at a spiritual level the same loving, caring, giving person that she was at 19 as she is at 52!!
Sex brings the euphoric "illusion of love" - it is NOT love! As Thundermaverick said, sex is a bonding force but first you must have something greater than sex to hold you together when hardships come - love is that bonding force which is a greater force than sex!!
Love relates to the spirit of a person - sex deals with the physical flesh - the spirit is on a much higher plane than the aging flesh,whose worth is determined by our eyes! So sex is less appealing with your wife when she is 19 and 120 pounds versus 52 and 300 pounds. But she remains at a spiritual level the same loving, caring, giving person that she was at 19 as she is at 52!!