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Just a question that me and a friend were discussing yesterday. We couldn't agree on it. My friend said yes, I said no.
Discuss?
Discuss?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Is It Possible For A Virgin Girl To Experience Love?
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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This is retarded. What are you saying that love=sex? I dont think so.
I've also looked at your other thread. Are you starting to get soft or something?
I've also looked at your other thread. Are you starting to get soft or something?
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My other thread about liking friendly girls?Luke Skywalker said:
Anyway, I do think love and sex are related. I can't see how a girl could experience love without having sex. Why is that retarded? For a girl to be in love with a guy, they have to have sex in order to know if they truly want to be with him or not. Without sex, there's no reason for attachment. There's also no real connection.
On that note, that's why I think telling some guys to "marry only virgins" is bad advice. Because, sure you could marry a virgin, but more often than not I would bet it wouldn't work out. If she's never experienced love before, how will she know how to love?
Francisco d'Anconia
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Is your mother a girl? Does she love you? If she does, ummm... Well...~attrACTION~ said:
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If she's never experienced love before, how will she know how to love?
And on the other side of the coin you could say a non virgin has experienced love, but when it doesn't work out she takes a more cynical view of it. (I.E. women sleeping around to find "love") Her love for someone radiates less for another because she's already experienced the highs and lows of it.
Alot of that goes on around here. People mistake "LOVE" for lust also.
I think it's very true that you can't experience man-woman love without first having sex. Sex only tightens that bond. (By design of course). I mean a virgin can have love for someone, but without sex I think it's the kind of love you have for your close friends or family.
Sex is suppose to create a bond, but many people pervert it.
And on the other side of the coin you could say a non virgin has experienced love, but when it doesn't work out she takes a more cynical view of it. (I.E. women sleeping around to find "love") Her love for someone radiates less for another because she's already experienced the highs and lows of it.
Alot of that goes on around here. People mistake "LOVE" for lust also.
I think it's very true that you can't experience man-woman love without first having sex. Sex only tightens that bond. (By design of course). I mean a virgin can have love for someone, but without sex I think it's the kind of love you have for your close friends or family.
Sex is suppose to create a bond, but many people pervert it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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But his mother had sex with his father.Francisco d'Anconia said:
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What about if the girl is a slvt or a ho that you are paying for? You may feel some sort of release, but how could that be love? Do you mean to qualify what you mean by sex?ThunderMaverick said:
Is it possible for a prostitute or a slvt sleeping with many guys to know what love means as compared to a virgin girl? What about a nun?
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I didn't mean that kind of love. I meant loving a guy who is not family.Francisco d'Anconia said:
Yeah, that's basically what I meant.ThunderMaverick said:
Francisco d'Anconia
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His mother's love for his father wasn't in question...Luke Skywalker said:
Francisco d'Anconia
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Do you guys realize that there's a difference between love and lust?~attrACTION~ said:
Here's a consideration, an man and woman meet and begin a relationship. Because of a medical condition of one of the two they are not able to to have sex (no, the little blue pill won't work and there is and untreatable pelvic or neurological problem). Would it be impossible for them to fall in love?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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Yes, I do realize that there's a difference. But what I'm saying is how can you have love (man and woman who are not family), without lust/sex? You can't really, or it can't be that deep.Francisco d'Anconia said:
Sex makes you think that you have a connection deeper than you really do. In reality, it is just a bunch of drugs that you two are sharing. IF/when sex trails off, you're always bound to discover that the two of you don't have as much in common as you really thought.
That's why it's fukking crazy to get married based on a relationship initiated sexually that's been only going on for a few months to a year. The majority of that relationship will be based on sex and all the other actions contained in it will be painted with that sex euphoria.
Personally, I do not equate sex with love. I agree with Francisisco on this one.
That's why it's fukking crazy to get married based on a relationship initiated sexually that's been only going on for a few months to a year. The majority of that relationship will be based on sex and all the other actions contained in it will be painted with that sex euphoria.
Personally, I do not equate sex with love. I agree with Francisisco on this one.
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This is all a moot point. Virgin girls are extinct.
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That is true for most males and that is what creates contention with women when you are in a relationship. Women typically need more than just sex to gain that level of feeling.~attrACTION~ said:
More times than not, unless that feeling is there first the sex will only sustain the relationship for a limited amount of time before the woman starts becoming bored and possible looking at other avenues to fulfill that need.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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Yes - virgins actually love more since they are not blinded by sex and their feeling of love is not influenced by the flesh!
Sex brings the euphoric "illusion of love" - it is NOT love! As Thundermaverick said, sex is a bonding force but first you must have something greater than sex to hold you together when hardships come - love is that bonding force which is a greater force than sex!!
Love relates to the spirit of a person - sex deals with the physical flesh - the spirit is on a much higher plane than the aging flesh,whose worth is determined by our eyes! So sex is less appealing with your wife when she is 19 and 120 pounds versus 52 and 300 pounds. But she remains at a spiritual level the same loving, caring, giving person that she was at 19 as she is at 52!!
Sex brings the euphoric "illusion of love" - it is NOT love! As Thundermaverick said, sex is a bonding force but first you must have something greater than sex to hold you together when hardships come - love is that bonding force which is a greater force than sex!!
Love relates to the spirit of a person - sex deals with the physical flesh - the spirit is on a much higher plane than the aging flesh,whose worth is determined by our eyes! So sex is less appealing with your wife when she is 19 and 120 pounds versus 52 and 300 pounds. But she remains at a spiritual level the same loving, caring, giving person that she was at 19 as she is at 52!!