"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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is it normal to party in your 30s?

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Instead of trying to get the approval of other people, think about what's good for yourself in the long run.

Most people actually don't care what you do as long as it isn't committing a crime. For those who butt into your business and try to tell you what is appropriate for you, they are pushing an agenda and it's on you to keep your frame.
if you don't mind me asking, did you party into your 20s?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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they do say its better to burn out than fade away, so...
Yeah, they say that until they get older and realize life is still worth living.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It is settled then, OP. The general consensus from the board is that you can party in your 30s as long as it doesn’t interfere with your health, career, finances, or other priorities.
 

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The question shouldn't be is it frowned upon or not by others, it should be "Have I outgrown this now?"
 

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Most men when they hit their 30s really don't feel like doing the things they thought was fun in your 20s. For me, when I hit my mid 30s I lost all interest in going 'clubbing'. I would have stopped sooner, but in my 30s I was living in Europe, so it was all sort of new and interesting, but after a couple of years doing that... I was partied out.

After my divorce in my mid-40s, I got back on the wagon again, but quickly figured out I just couldn't do it anymore without screwing up my health and purpose.

I definitely had the energy to do it in my 30s, I just really didn't want to any more.
 

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Most men when they hit their 30s really don't feel like doing the things they thought was fun in your 20s. For me, when I hit my mid 30s I lost all interest in going 'clubbing'. I would have stopped sooner, but in my 30s I was living in Europe, so it was all sort of new and interesting, but after a couple of years doing that... I was partied out.
I used to go out routinely every weekend due to fomo. When Covid started popping up, I used it as an excuse to stop going out. I realized I didn't miss it at all and I left it at that. I will go out on a special occasion, but those routine club days are over for me.
 

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Might as well do so as long as we're physically mobile. Peripherally speaking, this piss puddle of an existence we're all drowning in is all there f-cking is, tragic as said realization is
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've been thinking about this for a while, but usually, the early 20s are typically used as a time period to establish yourself and get ahead as much as possible career wise. yet, it's sort of socially frowned upon to party in your 30s with this being the case. Why? For me, this doesn't really make that much sense.
Like someone else said, it depends on how you define "partying". If you mean partying the same way you partied when you were in college (pre-drinking, going to jam-packed nightclubs, waking up with a massive hangover the following day) then yes, it's generally frowned upon among people in their 30's. Why? Basically this:

 

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I used to go out routinely every weekend due to fomo. When Covid started popping up, I used it as an excuse to stop going out. I realized I didn't miss it at all and I left it at that. I will go out on a special occasion, but those routine club days are over for me.
Sometimes we need an epiphany to change our routine and put more focus on your mission.

Might as well do so as long as we're physically mobile. Peripherally speaking, this piss puddle of an existence we're all drowning in is all there f-cking is, tragic as said realization is
That sounds rather pessimistic.
 

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In my early 30s, yeah, but it got boring real quick. The loud cheapo electro music, and cheap drinks gets repetitive.
 

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I have two things to say; firstly I don't get this ageism. Someone said " 40 y.o men chasing college girls". I have to stick up for the women, but what about women who are of equal age? You cab be 50 and chase women who are 50...

I asked this new member @craider I believe it is)? a couple of times but now he makes it a little game of hide and seek instead of addressing it like a grown man: what's a man or woman supposed to do when he she is lets say 52 and gets out of a "picture perfect " 30 year relationship? Just sit in the corner for the next 30 years roll over and die?

Ofcourse you gonna see 60 y.o Halle berry looking women lining up Chad's and Tyrones at will. Men literally limit themselves to their own success. "If you ain't rich before 30 you've failed".meanwhile most men won't be anyone untill after 40 or even 50.
 

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I am 42. When I was 37 and single again, I didn’t really want to go out to bars and party that way until I realized that I was attracting younger women, and then it all changed and I started having a lot of fun doing it.

I think I was single three weeks, and I went home with the bartender who must have been 25, and ended up blowing lines at her friends apartment and then I was woken up in my Jeep in my friends driveway Easter morning by his father. It normally wasn’t crazy like this. It felt great though to know I still had ‘it’. I didn’t believe I lost it necessarily but I was limited in my thinking to women my own age, and then that happened. Even this year, on St. Pat’s on Stone St. in NYC, at 41, still gaming recent grads. That was fun as it had been awhile. I specifically went out with one friend the same time, because we had a strategy together. We would try to bring other guys but those nights never worked out for picking up women.

Enjoy it while you can. When you’re in your 30’s, age and hormonal balance begin to work against you, not for you like your 20’s. Don’t listen to what anyone says, don’t limit yourself, and more importantly don’t go looking for their approval.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have two things to say; firstly I don't get this ageism. Someone said " 40 y.o men chasing college girls". I have to stick up for the women, but what about women who are of equal age? You cab be 50 and chase women who are 50...
You have to remember this is the manosphere, and girls cease to exist the moment they turn 25. And that even if you're 90 years old, you should only be dating 22 year olds - ask Bill Belichick or Leonardo DiCaprio.
 

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You have to remember this is the manosphere, and girls cease to exist the moment they turn 25. And that even if you're 90 years old, you should only be dating 22 year olds - ask Bill Belichick or Leonardo DiCaprio.
Depends if you are keyboard jockey or not

I kinda feel that sometimes forums like these are mainly for people to brag or to vent their frustrations

little to nothing about actually improving stuff, or to create at lease some sort of support group
 

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I kinda feel that sometimes forums like these are mainly for people to brag or to vent their frustrations
little to nothing about actually improving stuff, or to create at lease some sort of support group
It is kind of a male support group, but it probably serves several different functions.
I do think there is content to help you improve, but you have to dig for it, and it's lost in a sea of nonsense.
Also, the content that is there is definitely not a magic pill - meaning it might help, but it probably won't help as much as you want it to.
But there is an effective general attitude that can be gleaned if you look for it.
 
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