Is it normal for most 1st dates to be a complete waste of time

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

It's really easy for me to get a date, but usually the girl ghosts me or tells me we don't have a romantic connection afterwards. I'll even have girls flirt with me, pay my food, tell me when they can meet up again, but still be unable to get a scond date out of them. Is this normal?

1). I live in the suburbs currently, so doing anything near my place or asking her to come to my place is out of the question because most women I meet live in the city. As a result, I have to always pick a place near them lol.....BLAH BLAH I can't do anything about this right now until my lease ends and I get everything straightened up.

2). Usually I meet up at bars or pubs for a drink at most.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Yes, it’s a numbers game. Historically I’ve found about a 50% drop per date up until 3 dates in. Out of 10 dates, I expect about 5 to make it to a second, then 2 or 3 to make it to the third.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Most? No. But some are. Your mileage may vary.

 

[manfrombelow]

You offered her the date, why did you let her pay for the food???

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Depends on a lot of variables so it is hard to say how normal it is.

Typically when I am dialed in and on my game something like 70% of the women I go on first dates with want to see me again. When I am not there are times I have gone 10 or 12 dates in a row without success. It is a numbers game but how you present yourself in date matters a LOT.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

It's really easy for me to get a date, but usually the girl ghosts me or tells me we don't have a romantic connection afterwards. I'll even have girls flirt with me, pay my food, tell me when they can meet up again, but still be unable to get a scond date out of them. Is this normal?

1). I live in the suburbs currently, so doing anything near my place or asking her to come to my place is out of the question because most women I meet live in the city. As a result, I have to always pick a place near them lol.....BLAH BLAH I can't do anything about this right now until my lease ends and I get everything straightened up.

2). Usually I meet up at bars or pubs for a drink at most.

It is normal. Where are you getting these girls' numbers from aka how are you meeting them in the first place?

Modern Man Advice

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I meet these women off OLD

It's situations like this where our normal instinct is to just help the guy feel better. However, the part I have bolded is concerning.

There's something you're doing/not doing that turns these girls off during date #1.

OP, what do you normally do during a first date? How do you sexualize?

Idk I just go to bars, have a drink/convo and end it there. I live in Texas so most places are like a 15 minute drive from each other, so I can't just go to a bar then say hey lets go to this park afterwards. My gut feeling is telling me that girls are expecting me to act a certain way and get turned off completely. I'm a 6ft jacked black guy, so I think they are expecting some ex athlete, Tyler Perry, any black persona but instead I have a Fratty Jordan Belfort personality lol. I have a date tomorrow, what should I do?

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You offered her the date, why did you let her pay for the food???

cause free food

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

1000% yes, we're probably about to enter lockdown here again so I'll need to go meet some human sock I want to strictly shoot loads in during quarantine, I don't beat around the bush either, just tell her you need to enter quarantine now and that she needs to go with you, for safety of course.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

1000% yes, we're probably about to enter lockdown here again so I'll need to go meet some human sock I want to strictly shoot loads in during quarantine, I don't beat around the bush either, just tell her you need to enter quarantine now and that she needs to go with you, for safety of course.

I live in Texas, the state was only shut down for like only two weeks barely lol

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I live in Texas, the state was only shut down for like only two weeks barely lol

Were still in a measured lockdown and our cases are rising sharply which makes no sense at all, the variant cases are lesser than the actual cases we have yet the cases have been going down consistently in this lockdown until the variant showed up, now cases are up again and we didn't loosen any restrictions, very strange.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Were still in a measured lockdown and our cases are rising sharply which makes no sense at all, the variant cases are lesser than the actual cases we have yet the cases have been going down consistently in this lockdown until the variant showed up, now cases are up again and we didn't loosen any restrictions, very strange.

People are probably still partying low key during lockdown tbh. You can't really half a$$ a lockdown tbh

 

[bat soup]

It's really easy for me to get a date, but usually the girl ghosts me or tells me we don't have a romantic connection afterwards. I'll even have girls flirt with me, pay my food, tell me when they can meet up again, but still be unable to get a scond date out of them. Is this normal?

1). I live in the suburbs currently, so doing anything near my place or asking her to come to my place is out of the question because most women I meet live in the city. As a result, I have to always pick a place near them lol.....BLAH BLAH I can't do anything about this right now until my lease ends and I get everything straightened up.

2). Usually I meet up at bars or pubs for a drink at most.

It's normal for women to be flakey. That's how women are. They're probably meeting lots of guys and lying about it. Some of them were probably just out for a free meal.

 

[logicallefty]

No date is a waste if you are doing something YOU want to do and she is just invited to come along. That’s how I roll with it.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

It's really easy for me to get a date, but usually the girl ghosts me or tells me we don't have a romantic connection afterwards. I'll even have girls flirt with me, pay my food, tell me when they can meet up again, but still be unable to get a scond date out of them. Is this normal?

1). I live in the suburbs currently, so doing anything near my place or asking her to come to my place is out of the question because most women I meet live in the city. As a result, I have to always pick a place near them lol.....BLAH BLAH I can't do anything about this right now until my lease ends and I get everything straightened up.

2). Usually I meet up at bars or pubs for a drink at most.

In 2021 dating is phaggotry. Modern women are on the carousel at their best getting ran through. ls waiting at 30 post wall with Chad or Tyrones kids.

You sir are living in a out dated model that is extinct.

1. Dating worked out when society had nuclear family and enforced monogamy was the norm.

2. Modern women are slurry and unworthy of dates.

3. Dating signals low T and being beta cuckold provider.

4. Womens pursuit of monogamy is after the wall in western world.

Op your not doing it right. our grandfather's pursued our grandmother's and won them over. Today that's considered rapey. She came virgin and got the ring. Not thot status. Not gang bangs and white dresses after her best.

The new play is smash or next. Pull or #nextset. It's volume over monogamy. Comply or bye. It's not up for debate. Save resources for buying Ada. for btc. For a **** YOU fund. For a biz venture. I had one of my mates high roller burn cash on dates before getting escorts. He argued that the ROI is far better. I prefer to put work in but it's all prostitution be it dating marriage or the skank on ig. The waste of dating is retarded.

I take my D out. She is either dtf or #next. Become a mercenary. They are all from the streets. Treat as such.

 

[manfrombelow]

cause free food

But free food was not the primary reason to make you want to go to the date. Let's not BS ourselves here.

You came to the date with a woman to seduce her, to make things happen, to build a road, block by block, that leads to the eventual outcome that you desire: BANG her.

I asked that question because when a woman, especially on the 1st date, wanted to pay the bill for the date, it's always a BAD omen. It indicates that she's not following my lead. She's not buying into my frame. She doesn't want to "owe" me. She doesn't trust in my masculine core. In short: I FAILED to seduce her properly to make her want to have a second date with me. That's why she insisted to pay the bill.

On the 1st date, paying the bill is my job, and my job only. I offered her the date, I picked the venue, I chose the time and date, hence I am the one who pay, not hers. So whenever a woman wanted to pay the bill on the 1st date, I will never see her again because I know there's no point in doing that anymore.

 

[Gstring]

@Jake_Gyllenhaal69 you are failing to connect.. Every woman talks emotionally and what she says must be feel-ed. Connection then is when you understand the feelings she is conveying then answer with words that let her know you understand her feelings.

When she says "we don't have romantic connection" that means your responses provoke wrong emotions in her, or otherwise, you are clueless about what should be done.

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It is not normal what you are having.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

After late night thinking, I've noticed some correlations between these women that aren't going anywhere past the 1st date.

1) SJW Feminist/liberal vibes- Understandable, I'm not some reformed HBCU Tyler Perry/Woke black dude and I ain't going to fake that either

2) Single Sally- Displaying toxic and unhealthy single women behavior- Maybe I showed too much interest or maybe they were expecting a free meal from a hot guy, maybe they needed to be game...***** them, I'm not trying to play games or deal with bull **** right now

3) Middle Eastern- Idk what's going with them, but I can't seem to connect with these girls...Out of all the races, I see middle eastern girls with more fat beta simps than any other group so could be a cultural thing. This one hurts the most because I find middle eastern girls the most attractive

4) I tried cramming the date in bad times...For example, I had a date with a girl after smashing one of my plates, so I showed up with a hickey on my neck and I was extremely low energy. This can be worked on!

Basically, if I spot 1 or 2 I'm going to end the date lol

 

[ubercat]

Easy answer go with a few scripted questions from here. Take her on an action date. Take charge of the convo. Get her talking about travel or her childhood. Make up stories about ppl in the place. End the date before she does. Anything but be boring. You ve obviously got the looks so you just have to not screw the pooch.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

OP, you need to start analyzing what you are doing on these dates. If it happens once or twice then there is a chance some random bad luck is involved. When it keeps happening with many different women then you need to start looking at yourself as the problem because you are the only constant in the equation.

Start analyzing these dates and thinking about what is happening in them. I was having an issue when I first started going on dates again after an LTR where I was being overly sexual with women on first dates and had a long string of no 2nd dates. Probably 10 or 11 over a month period. I started to analyze what was happening and I started to relax with the sexual stuff a little and just sprinkle it in when opportunity arose and as soon as I started doing that I had 4 or 5 women wanting to see me again and I banged all of them eventually.

You have to be able to learn from what is happening in date and then try different approaches and tactics until you find what works for you. Then keep doing it. It can be frustrating but you will learn a lot about yourself. Now I am at the point where I am pretty successful on most first dates and the women want to see me again...I am probably hitting around 70-80% of good first dates now...confidence breeds confidence amd it becomes like a snowball rolling downhill. I just KNOW this woman is gonna want to see me again because I feel awesome and clearly I project that.