"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
is it fine to ask a girl for a phone number?
- Thread starter Yakovinho
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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You:So is there a number I can reach you at?
Her:I have a boyfriend
You:Thats ok, Im not the jeleaous type.
Ive done it and it works like a charm, a bf isnt a roadblock, more along the lines of a obstical. And if you think its wrong to steal a girl away from sum guy, your dead wrong. First of all she dosnt belong to him, and second she wouldnt leave him for you is she wasnt already thinking bout leaving him.
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SharinganUser said:rrr, I thought mostly men posted on this forum. Well I know this forum is ruled by men, and being a man myself (one that has fuked the hell out of a married woman), I am giving you permission to get her phone #.
I've taken the permission away with provisional 332-B. I can do this also since I am a man. So no I won't let you get her #. Sorry Yakovinho, i'm just an a-hole like that!
Half the time girls are looking for another guy if they have a boyfriend.
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
that's a good point. never heard it that way before. BUT the woman could also be not mature enough to commit. so if u steal her, than it's only a matter of time before some other dude gives u a taste of ur own medicine. who wants to deal with that?CalmCoolAndConfident said:Ive done it and it works like a charm, a bf isnt a roadblock, more along the lines of a obstical. And if you think its wrong to steal a girl away from sum guy, your dead wrong. First of all she dosnt belong to him, and second she wouldnt leave him for you is she wasnt already thinking bout leaving him.
Couple of things I'd like to mention:CalmCoolAndConfident said:Ive done it and it works like a charm, a bf isnt a roadblock, more along the lines of a obstical. And if you think its wrong to steal a girl away from sum guy, your dead wrong. First of all she dosnt belong to him, and second she wouldnt leave him for you is she wasnt already thinking bout leaving him.
1. "Boyfriend" is one thing. "Married" is another. Always keep that in mind. Granted, you shouldn't let a boyfriend stop you. However, if a girl is MARRIED, then you should back off ESPECIALLY if she has kids with the guy. I know the threadstarter was talking about boyfriend, but just wanted to clear that up.
2. If a girl will cheat on her current man with you, what makes you think she won't turn around and do the same thing to you when you become her man? Ponder that when you are chasing after another guy's girl.
knglerxt
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I just don't get the "she's not married" attitude that a lot of guys have on this forum. The girl might not have a ring on her finger yet, but she's still in a relationship. I guess the word "relationship" doesn't mean much to people these days. Just because she hasn't married the guy yet doesn't mean she doesn't intend on marrying him. Maybe she's in college and wants to wait until she graduates or something. Maybe the guy hasn't asked her to marry him. Maybe they haven't known each other long enough. There are plenty of reasons why people wait.