lokariototal
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what do you think, you should FALL in love with the girl you like or falling in love is just disney/chick flick movie material?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
is it a good idea to fall in love?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Blood Angel
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He's asking if it's a positive thing to fall in love. Basically, he's wondering if he should try to avoid falling in love or not for whatever reason(s).speakeasy said:
It's okay to fall in love, but you should be careful about who you love. And yes, you can make a choice. It's not like those stupid movies where you can't help it. You can choose to protect yourself from a whole lot emotional trauma if you see the warning signs.
There are some girls you meet who'll seem great. Maybe she's a total sex bomb and at first there's a lot of passion and romance. But she might have a completely different set of priorities in life from you. She might have some serious issues. In those cases, have your fun and cut her loose.
So basically, you should make sure that you allow yourself to fall in love with someone with whom it will probably work. Ask yourself if the person meets all of the most important criteria you're looking for in a lover. If she doesn't meet even one of these criteria- tread carefully and DON'T fall in love.
There are some girls you meet who'll seem great. Maybe she's a total sex bomb and at first there's a lot of passion and romance. But she might have a completely different set of priorities in life from you. She might have some serious issues. In those cases, have your fun and cut her loose.
So basically, you should make sure that you allow yourself to fall in love with someone with whom it will probably work. Ask yourself if the person meets all of the most important criteria you're looking for in a lover. If she doesn't meet even one of these criteria- tread carefully and DON'T fall in love.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Iceberg
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If you're in love, then you're in love, right?lokariototal said:
I don't see how it's a matter of choice. I mean, yeah, if we have a choice over these things, then love is a bad idea. I'd be a lot more productive if I could just bang various women, procreate, and never have to live with them.
zekko
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Being in love may not be a good idea, but I don't think you've lived a complete life if you haven't experienced it.
Attraction is not a choice. How many times have we heard that on this forum, and in other seduction material?
Iceberg
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Yeah. I'm agreeing with you.zekko said:
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
starplayer
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The problem is, most guys confuse "love" with oneitis.
I hate to say it, but I think men these days should avoid falling in love. Women can fall in love, they're slaves to their emotions, it's the meaning of life to them. But when a guy falls in love it can be me quite messy.
All the disney fantasy romantic ideas that men have been brainwashed with their entire lives should be avoided as much as possible. That is all a lie.
Having some feelings for a good girl who has proven she can be trusted is ok. But not all that "you're my everything, i would die for you" BS.
It's important to understand where those feelings of "love" come from. For a woman, she falls in love with an alpha male - the chemicals in her brain tell her to stick close to the alpha male because he will provide the best genes for her offspring. The one and only she needs. The ONE.
For a man however, he only falls in love when he has no other other options. He isn't biologically designed to stick with ONE female, he's supposed to have many and impregnate all of them. So when a guy falls in "love" with a woman, it's usually because there are no other women - she is his only one and he knows he must hold on to her for his best chance of passing on his genes.
So that's why to avoid love. It makes you act like an AFC and if you're in love with a woman it tells her you can't do any better than her.
I hate to say it, but I think men these days should avoid falling in love. Women can fall in love, they're slaves to their emotions, it's the meaning of life to them. But when a guy falls in love it can be me quite messy.
All the disney fantasy romantic ideas that men have been brainwashed with their entire lives should be avoided as much as possible. That is all a lie.
Having some feelings for a good girl who has proven she can be trusted is ok. But not all that "you're my everything, i would die for you" BS.
It's important to understand where those feelings of "love" come from. For a woman, she falls in love with an alpha male - the chemicals in her brain tell her to stick close to the alpha male because he will provide the best genes for her offspring. The one and only she needs. The ONE.
For a man however, he only falls in love when he has no other other options. He isn't biologically designed to stick with ONE female, he's supposed to have many and impregnate all of them. So when a guy falls in "love" with a woman, it's usually because there are no other women - she is his only one and he knows he must hold on to her for his best chance of passing on his genes.
So that's why to avoid love. It makes you act like an AFC and if you're in love with a woman it tells her you can't do any better than her.
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I just realized this is SO true after considering it for a bit. Every time I've had one-itis in my life, a KEY factor has been present: severe lack of other girls in my life.starplayer said:
Very interesting theory!starplayer said:
Okay, well there is at least one biological reason men fall in love. That chemical, I think it's oxytocin that gives people the feeling of falling in love and bonding. It happens in men long enough so that he will bond to the woman after knocking her up. And he will be there to ensure the survival of the kid. Of course the oxytocin wear off over time and you won't get that butterfly feelings anymore. So it does have it's place in child rearing. Also, a man's testosterone level drops when he's holding a baby. So these things are natures way of encouraging the guy to stick around and not get her pregnant and run off. After that, I think the love is more practical. The love isn't based so much on giddy feelings, but on what's reasonable. You may decide you want a family, the big house, SUV and all that. And perhaps you've found a woman that fits well into your life and can bring you family life. So you will intensify your love, but it'll be a more sane type of love and not that the silly stuff people sing about in love poems a few months after they've met.
I agree with zekko, I think everyone should fall in love at least once just for the life experience.
Serg897
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I hate to say it, but at this point, Im not even convinced "falling in love" is a real phenomenon.
starplayer
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speakeasy said:
Yeah true. I think it's OK for a man to have some feelings for a woman. You shouldn't be completely cold.
But that uncontrollable feeling that 99% of men call "falling in love" and making them do stupid things and stay with the wrong woman because she's so "special" and "LTR material" - that ain't love! That's just desperation and oneitis.
P.S. I also think men should fall in "love" at least once. In fact it's inevitable, it happens to everyone sometime. It's a great feeling... until it ends.
And when you get your heart broken you either make the same mistakes again and again, or if you're lucky you end up finding a place like this forum.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
eaglez1177
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This is a very interesting thread
In my experience it's not. But then again I've never experienced much positive aspects of being in love, so maybe it is. However I've made a promise to myself that I won't fall in love with some chick and get hurt. I know I make this sound like I fall in love often, but actually I only fell in love twice in my life, and neither of them were positive experiences. So now I do my best to distance myself emotionally.
This thread has some good material. I like the idea of ALLOWING yourself to love versus FALLING in love. Totally different. I'm going to remember that.
I think having those feelings of being in love are okay, but make sure you don't love her more than she loves you. That's what's important. The one who loves the most has the least power in the relationship and is usually the one that gets kicked to the curb.
And yeah, falling in love does often lead to oneitis. I see it all the time. Certain types of love are probably best avoided, like that puppylove ****.
I think having those feelings of being in love are okay, but make sure you don't love her more than she loves you. That's what's important. The one who loves the most has the least power in the relationship and is usually the one that gets kicked to the curb.
And yeah, falling in love does often lead to oneitis. I see it all the time. Certain types of love are probably best avoided, like that puppylove ****.
teacha
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LOVE is a wonderful and special thing!!!! If you find love; cherish it.f283000 said:
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.