GrowingPains
Master Don Juan
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All good. "All my losses were lessons". Try again.I approached a couple very cute 22-23 year olds tonight and totally destroyed it due to my intense burning desire to meet someone
goddamn it
All good. "All my losses were lessons". Try again.
Just because you know how you should behave doesn't mean you will behave that way. You need to keep at it until your mindset truly changes. It's like learning to do a skill in sports. You know what it looks like... But you have to keep trying until you finally do it.what is causing this intense desperation?
I go into it thinking that I will not care about the outcome and I come across incredibly desperate cause I want it to happen so badly
How so? Did you freeze up?I approached a couple very cute 22-23 year olds tonight and totally destroyed it due to my intense burning desire to meet someone
QuotedI can't stress how important having a genuine purpose other than chasing tail is when it comes to talking to women. Outcome dependence is largely caused by your own thoughts & "holding yourself accountable" for trying to be social/get laid. The mindset goes from " maybe this person is cool, let's find out" to "Oh god she's hot, I hope she likes me" & that self imposed pressure is where it all begins to fall apart.
Having a genuine purpose (A mission, a job, a hobby, a goal in mind, etc) that you place most of your focus on makes interacting a lot easier in my experience. You don't care a whole lot whether things go good or bad with someone you speak to because your subconscious thoughts are preoccupied on something more important than getting ass.
Selling yourself to a girl like you're a used car that's reliable, dependable, & fun to drive is a fight youll never win. The chick has to come up with these conclusions on her own. Since so many chicks are used to guys fumbling over their words like retards due to their expectations of the interaction, the smoothest thing you can do is just talk to them like theyre a human being...because they are exactly that. It's not hard to ask a girl where she's from, why she does what she does for work, what she's passionate about, etc...dropping little things in the midst of convo about her like "I've never met someone passionate about 'insert thing here', that's unique of you" shows you're paying attention & find certain things about her attractive without flat out saying it. I forgot what book I read it in, but it said that when you go out to talk to people to tell yourself that the world is your playground & to treat it as such. Have fun for yourself. Not her.
everybody here assumes I'm Puerto Rican or Spanish. I have Mexicans who constantly talk Spanish to me without even asking me.I don't know man. I think you are not understanding the real cause here. It's not that desperation is destroying your chances, it's that you are desperate because Armenian/middle eastern men are at the bottom of the dating hierarchy.
Racial minority males often struggle. Arab/Asian Indian-Pakistani/Middle Eastern men struggle a lot. They are at the bottom of the social hierarchy for dating. I almost never see arab/middle eastern guys succeed in clubs and bars. Several times, I have been recruited on the spot to intervene when arab guys are being try hard and the woman is getting fed up.
About a month ago I stepped into a Starbucks because I forgot my water for my workout. There was a tall, good looking middle eastern looking guy on a date. His date had a cute face, but she was short and overweight. A clear mismatch. Or was it? Maybe a mismatch in looks but perhaps not in dating value.
The strange thing is, arab/asian Indian men are far more aggressive in approaching women. Also, they seem not to get what "no" means. Hence, I am recruited.
It's strange, but dave17 is the male equivalent of the low value black women he refers to. Fat and ugly women are probably thinking: "how is this guy rejecting me? He's at the bottom of the social hierarchy!"
Dave17 is in a tough spot. He thinks he is at the top of the dating hierarchy for Armenian men but Armenian men overall are at the bottom of the dating hierarchy in western countries. Also, his pool is tiny because his tastes are so particular. He's setting himself up to fail. If guys at the top of the dating hierarchy will date all kinds of women, then dave17 handicaps himself severely by his being willing to date only a very specific type of woman when he is at the bottom.
how so? Mario Lopez, Ricky Martin (before he came out as gay), Enrique Iglesias, etc... are all huge sex symbolsThe negative rating for Hispanic men is almost as bad as it is for middle eastern men. It doesn't matter whether women view you as middle eastern or hispanic. It's still a huge negative in western countries.
Etc lol. You name 3 people, all outliers. Plus those guys are just pushed by the media because of affirmative action and political correctness. Most Mexican chicks want to date outside of their race and will whenever they have a chance.how so? Mario Lopez, Ricky Martin (before he came out as gay), Enrique Iglesias, etc... are all huge sex symbols
I also want a Spanish or Middle eastern woman. Why would they not want a good looking decent height (5'10 is tall to Mexican chicks) guy?
what is this based on? The vast VAST majority of mexican and middle eastern women I know are dating mexican and middle eastern men. Do you have any proof?Etc lol. You name 3 people, all outliers. Plus those guys are just pushed by the media because of affirmative action and political correctness. Most Mexican chicks want to date outside of their race and will whenever they have a chance.
Mexican chicks WANT to date outside of their race. Whether they are able to is another question. See the difference?what is this based on? The vast VAST majority of mexican and middle eastern women I know are dating mexican and middle eastern men. Do you have any proof?
am I responding to a troll?
again what is this based on? Absolutely nothingMexican chicks WANT to date outside of their race. Whether they are able to is another question. See the difference?
I know multiple mexican guys at my gym with hot mexican girlfriends. I met a totally bald Puerto Rican dude last year with a very hot Venezuelan girlfriendAnyway, you're getting off point. You're not struggling because you're desperate. You're struggling because you are at the bottom of the dating hierarchy. You are going to struggle. When you struggle to get results, you are going to get desperate. But it's not desperation per se, it's your low social status.
You have two options: continue what you're doing and get nothing, or settle for a less attractive girl.
black women are at the bottom of social hierarchy because black features are least european and least feminine. Latin and Light skin middle men are both European and masculine lookingLOL, you are a dumb ass. You correctly point out black women are at the bottom of the social hierarchy but are in complete denial of where middle eastern and Mexican men stand. At the bottom.
Now, you are going off on some tangent because you don't want to face the truth. It's clear you are going to keep fvcking up like you always have and you will get nothing. Because that's exactly what you've gotten: below average women or nothing.
Yet you get zero results. That means you are even below Mexican and ME men who can at least date their own women. You can't.black women are at the bottom of social hierarchy because black features are least european and least feminine. Latin and Light skin middle men are both European and masculine looking
All your studies FYI say that middle eastern and latin women respond fine to middle eastern and latin men. I never denied that white men overall do the best in dating but a lot of that is races I'm not really interested in (I don't care for light skin white women due to their flat bodies and horrible aging comparing to ethnic women).
nothing you can ever provide says that latin and ME women respond poorly to latin and ME men