"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Invisible Women

JonnyBGood

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My first post: A few days ago I was on the phone with my girl "friend" and a girl from school who is about a HB8 who I had never met was over at my friend's house. My friend had to use the restroom or something and she put the HB8 on the phone and I was kind of at a loss for what to say. Do you guys have anything to say for this situation? What do you say when you cant see the girl you're talking to? PS if you have anything for instant messages and text messages I want to know that too
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Tongs

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Talk as if she was right in front of you.

It isn't that hard.
 

JonnyBGood

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Well I meant because there isn't any clothing or anything like that to give any stuff to be c&f with or anything
 

GloriouslyInsane

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Could also made fun of your girl "friend" eg ("is she alright i can hear the farts from here!","does it smell as bad as it sounds?","was she backstabbing me again? come one you can tell me,she called me X didn't she?"),making fun of your common friend in a playful manner creates alot of rapport.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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penkitten

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when i read invisible i clicked on this thread. it really isnt about an invisible woman at all, its really about a women you never met before on the phone.

just be as witty as ever because you never know if you will get to meet her or not. the wittier you are, the better the chances.
 

GaryUranga

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make fun of the situation she's in "are you havign an orgy or something?" ok that might not be the best thing to say.. but something that makes fun of them being together seems like a good idea to me
 
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