steeringclear
Don Juan
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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
extremely valid stuff. No clue why I went the gentle route. We only have known of each for years (same city, middle school, highschool, uni) but have never talked until right now. The mention about seeing me at the gym was like a few years ago. You don’t think it would be worth just messaging her back asking her for drinks this week?It started off Ok but you took the bone and ran too far with it.
The red flag stuff is negative idk why you kept going back to it
She gave somewhat of an opening to turn it a bit more sexual / flirty when she said " would be fun to torture you"
You replied with
" please be gentle with me "
This is not exactly portraying confident in control energy is it
A better response would have been something like
"sounds like you'd take pleasure in torturing me"
Or " do you always want to torture guys you like "
The conversation started to waffle after that and she got bored , which is why the conversation ended
The messages read like this chick knows she has you where she wants you , I'd go ghost for at least 2-3 months only communicate if you see her in person.
Its very easy to get over excited on text game and say something stupid , probably even more so than you would IRLextremely valid stuff. No clue why I went the gentle route. We only have known of each for years (same city, middle school, highschool, uni) but have never talked until right now. The mention about seeing me at the gym was like a few years ago. You don’t think it would be worth just messaging her back asking her for drinks this week?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
There is interest as she's playing along " would be fun to torture you in a class " isn't being polite it's investing in the conversation its not something you would say in small talk lolSecond, there is no interest here, as shown by her immediate response to buy a ticket to her class. Everything else is her being polite enough not to fully close the door on that being a possibility. It also doesn't help that you came on SUPER strong by suggesting a "private lesson" to somebody you likely don't know personally.
She's trying to steer him towards buying a ticket by flirting, since he's already shown his intention with the "private lesson" remark, which she completely disregarded with just an emoji.There is interest as she's playing along " would be fun to torture you in a class " isn't being polite it's investing in the conversation its not something you would say in small talk lol
eh ig dms has worked plenty well. I also think the ticket buying thing was a **** test because she knows im a muscular dude and not someone who would actually do Pilates. Probs more so testing if I would just comply or not. I think I had it but probably ****ed up later in the conversation.First piece of advice would be not to open via Instagram DMS...it almost never works unless you have some real-world contact. And even then, just get a phone number.
Second, there is no interest here, as shown by her immediate response to buy a ticket to her class. Everything else is her being polite enough not to fully close the door on that being a possibility. It also doesn't help that you came on SUPER strong by suggesting a "private lesson" to somebody you likely don't know personally.
If this girl goes to your gym, you should've approached her and taken her number down.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
You could've responded to "I don't want to embarrass the pilates community" with words to the effect of
I mean I’ve definitely been around enough to know the difference between entertaining me and flirting with me. More so wanted to know how I should get back in there, either replying back to a story or just send another text.I disagree with these other guys, but feel free to keep trying and prove me wrong.
This reads like somebody entertaining a stranger they're not interested in by presenting them with the minimum amount of politeness to not potentially anger them.
She's sending emojis, using a "reaction" instead of responding, and generally giving short answers to OP's double messages.
Do not say anything / like her stories for at least a couple of daysI mean I’ve definitely been around enough to know the difference between entertaining me and flirting with me. More so wanted to know how I should get back in there, either replying back to a story or just send another text.
Will send picture update of us at bar getting drinks
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I don’t see her at the gym, I haven’t seen her in person for 3 years maybe. You don’t think it’s worth waiting a few days and then shooting a “what are you doing this weekend” text. I feel like if she answers then it was worth it and if she doesn’t then I know she wasn’t interested and will never reach back outDo not say anything / like her stories for at least a couple of days
ideally you talk with her first at the gym, and act like nothing has happened
That “ please be gentle “ would have worked just fine if you would have been boyfriend and girlfriend, but as a guy quite early in the courtship sounded submisive and showed way too much interest
if you continue from here to write soon, you will start chasing her and that plummets your attractiveness big time. Basically you will shoot yourself in the foot
well, what happened to you is called negative compliance. You can not make a push when you were hit with negative compliance, as you would chase herI don’t see her at the gym, I haven’t seen her in person for 3 years maybe. You don’t think it’s worth waiting a few days and then shooting a “what are you doing this weekend” text. I feel like if she answers then it was worth it and if she doesn’t then I know she wasn’t interested and will never reach back out
well, what I can tell you is that if you go too much on sexual tension without touching the rapport building you will end up with LMR, that if you can manage to pull her to your place“I need comfort ,trust , connection, sense of humour etc etc”
is really just a smokescreen. It’s bullsh1t.
I have to ask you.. why do you think that - that a woman ‘needs’ rapport to have sex with man?well, what I can tell you is that if you go too much on sexual tension without touching the rapport building you will end up with LMR, that if you can manage to pull her to your place
you need more sexual tension, that is true, but you also need decent ratio of rapport building
not even prost1tutes liked to be treat as such, very unlikely a girl will just sleep with you just because you build a lot of sexual tension and little to no rapport . Unless maybe she is a hoe or has mental issues, or things along this line
Also from my experience, when a girl makes things too easy, usually something is up and very likely you will not convert the opportunity. Especially if it is not night game
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.