"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
In a rut .... keep getting rejected
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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1. Temporarily lower your standards to get the ball rolling.
2. Just keep trying.
The main advantage to the first option is it gets you spinning plates faster. Then you just level up to hotter and hotter women while you drop the uglier/older/fatter plates.
I would start out with cougars. They tend to be easier and play less games than younger girls who are below HB7.
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I will add that rejections mean that you haven't met the RIGHT female(s) (for the level that you are currently at).
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Yes. I had this discussion with older guy when I was say 25.YAboi said:
Mike25ct: I keep getting rejected all the time. They won't give me the right time of day.
OlderGuy: You haven't met the right one.
Mike25ct: You don't GET IT. I'm invisible at best and rejected and treated like krap at worst.
OlderGuy: You haven't met the right one.
Anyway, we went back and forth for 20 minutes, and I was getting quite frustrated. He kept saying the same thing. He wasn't LISTENING to me lol.
After seeing how some women react very differently than others, I finally saw that he was quite correct.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
SamTheHobit
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I've gone from a hell if a slump to one number per week and only women I find attractive.
And this is just the start.
The problem with lowering standards in my case anyway I don't have the motivation to talk to unnatractive girls. Never mind make the effort to take them out somewhere.
Anyway it feels good to be back at that point where rejection feels fine.
We have a few rejections or bad experiences with women, so we start to doubt ourselves. The more we doubt ourselves, the more we project our insecurity/negativity towards women, which causes them to reject us too.
This is why most guys experience an influx of interest and options when they're in a relationship and can't seem to get anything after a break up.
But once you recognise it for what it is, you start to realise that actually there's nothing wrong with you. If you just start to think positive and confidently, then you can turn this around.
I remember a couple of years ago going through a similar phase. I got rejected 4 times in a row and started to feel paranoid. I took a time out, got my head straight and my next date was all over me...and so were the following 4 dates I had. All of them lead to sex, all of them smoking hot.
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The funny thing about insecurity is that you keep seeing every behavior of women as rejection.Jariel said:
And when you are secure enough in yourself, you look back and realize that hardly any of them rejected you at all, it was you who rejected yourself.
However, when in doubt, just keep on fapping
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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IMO if a woman won't sleep with you on YOUR TERMS she is rejecting you or at the very least --> Making you play by HER rules before she cooperates. This is unacceptable.The Simple Man said:The funny thing about insecurity is that you keep seeing every behavior of women as rejection.
And when you are secure enough in yourself, you look back and realize that hardly any of them rejected you at all, it was you who rejected yourself.
However, when in doubt, just keep on fapping
If you have to be a woman's beta b!tch to get her to cooperate and get sexual then it ain't worth it.
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If you see women as sex toy then yes, your opinion is right.PlayHer Man said:
But if you see them as toy, then it is not necessary so.
Either way, you are still playing, and playing should be fun, right?
On the other hand, beta b!tches do not consider this is fun at all. They see it as a fvcking conquest, and when they win it, they try to protect it with their lives. Not to mention when they lose it.
While a DJ knows he is playing toys, and what do you do when the toys are not fun to play with anymore, you throw the piece of sh!t away and buy a new one.
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U cracked me up....LiveFreeX said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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Do you at least have some positive past experience with women OP?t510 said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.