"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm sick of it..

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I boycottt MySpace, Facebook, and text messaging. Starting now. What a load of bullsht.

From now on, I talk to girls in person only, or with phone and email. That's the only way to avoid misunderstandings...
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DonGorgon

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Darth said:
I boycottt MySpace, Facebook, and text messaging. Starting now. What a load of bullsht.

From now on, I talk to girls in person only, or with phone and email. That's the only way to avoid misunderstandings...

LOL... you will still get the BS.. females BS everywhere they can...:eek:
 

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Agreed with DG
 

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Why? I've gotten at least 30 girls this year from online dating. It's soo easy it's not even funny, that is if you know how to do it right.
 

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DonGorgon said:
LOL... you will still get the BS.. females BS everywhere they can...:eek:
Whilst this may be true I think social networking and text messaging are working on their level, it took me a while to realise that it's just an excuse for pure attention whoring, certainly with younger women anyway.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hmm, you're boycotting all that, huh? That's great info, thanks, it will really help me... uh... with... something?
 

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Darth said:
I boycottt MySpace, Facebook, and text messaging. Starting now. What a load of bullsht.

From now on, I talk to girls in person only, or with phone and email. That's the only way to avoid misunderstandings...
I dont know why your so stressed about it. Myspace was awesome for me at one point. i had so many female friends and hooked up with a good amount lol. It was fun while it lasted but anyway, you just have to know what to say to get their attention and game on from there for the hookup. same concept in person anyway, approach and know what to say, once you hooked the bait then you have to keep at it.
 

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Darth said:
I boycottt MySpace, Facebook, and text messaging. Starting now. What a load of bullsht.

From now on, I talk to girls in person only, or with phone and email. That's the only way to avoid misunderstandings...
I agree that myspace and facebook are both terrible routes for getting girls, but text messaging could work to your advantage just as long as you aren't text messaging her more than she's texting you. I've had awful experiences through phone and e-mail as well. If I were you I'd only stick to in person and limited phone. AIM wouldn't be too bad, but don't be online all the time obviously.
 

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Yeah I'm in the middle of a text message battle... Its like I know I'm joking with her but she cant see my body language or the tone in my voice, so its up to her and its definately leading to some unsavoury tension!!!
 

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You shouldn't be trusting internet dating anyway. There's no substitute for real life encounters. I stopped myspace and facebook for a good reason. I get girls interested in every way possible, then next thing you know the b**ch flakes!

In real life, you can have the look on your face where it says "flake on me and I'll grind you into the pavement." I've done this and it's helped get a yes or no thoroughly with no games.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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nismo-4 said:
You shouldn't be trusting internet dating anyway. There's no substitute for real life encounters. I stopped myspace and facebook for a good reason. I get girls interested in every way possible, then next thing you know the b**ch flakes!

In real life, you can have the look on your face where it says "flake on me and I'll grind you into the pavement." I've done this and it's helped get a yes or no thoroughly with no games.
Agree 100%. There's no substitute for personal contact, and IMO things like Myspace and texting are just ways they can flake without having to face the music.
 

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Like so many things it depends on the persons attitude to it. If you think it's so bad then ask yourself why that is. Is it that bad or are you doing the wrong thing?


If you can only see the negative then maybe you should be asking yourself why. Some people have alot of success off internet dating (as some have pointed out) etc and they're the ones who has the best attitude and learned how to.
 

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Why? I've gotten at least 30 girls this year from online dating. It's soo easy it's not even funny, that is if you know how to do it right.

Yes, please do explain

i wanna here how it's easy
 

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As a girl my advice is: myspace and facebook NO.... text messaging of course! but you have to be a clever messenger by SMS. i mean, if you are going to send a girl a text message it has to be clever and to make her laugh or think u r a good catch.. not the typical: "it was really fun meeting you last night" or "you have the most beautiful eyes bla bla bla" .... good luck in the hunting!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Metaphysical said:
Why? I've gotten at least 30 girls this year from online dating. It's soo easy it's not even funny, that is if you know how to do it right.

Looks are ore critical on the internet cause you dont have the opportunity to show her yo how nice you really are in the inside... She just looks at ur pics and makes her choice on wether she will even read your "love letters" at all...

Point is have some great pictures!
 

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thats what you get for arranging dates over the net. I just tell women which bars/clubs i will be at that weekend and tell them to call me if they are be in that area . many of them come out to the same clubs im at and we chop it up in person and hookup that same night. its that simple.

most of you guys spend way too much time sending emails back and forth and get placed into the friend zone.
 

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"I'm getting sick of Hollywood. Should we remove them from power and start again?"

The way to remove them from power is to completely stop going to the movies and stop renting videos. Go to the library instead, or take up a hobby. I almost never go to the movies anymore. I'm not dropping ten bucks to see a piece of crap.
 
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