"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I'm in the friends-zone with an HB9 co-worker I've been with since I was AFC. Help!

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Alright, so here's the story. Basically I've worked at the same department store for a little over a year now(June2003). I was a huge AFC when I started. Total shy nice guy letting people walk all over me and then I started to change myself. In the fall I started working out and becoming more sociable. I work with alot of girls and I talk to all of them now and I've gotten alot better dealing with girls. Unfortunetly, I only found this site around February.

Anyways, so get this. I work with an HB9(we're both 20) and to tell you the truth, I never really payed much attention to her. See, I thought that I could never get a girl like this, so I decided that I wouldn't even really talk to her. I basically ignored her(having the occational convo) until about April or May 2004. This is kind of a good thing you might think, cause I started with the C+F, Neg-hits, etc..(which all work great), but sadly, it's too late. I'm so totally in the friends zone it's not funny.

I had her busting a gut the last couple times, but when I give good eye contact, she breaks it off. Like she always has this look, no matter how hard I make her laugh, that I'm just not good enough for her(I get that vibe, she's really materialistic). She's called me cute a couple of times, which at first I thought was amazing(never being called cute by a hot girl before) but of course I now just realise that it's B.S. She probably just wants to be some AFC boy-toy, I won't let her control me though and she realises/respects me more when I tell her off(with humor).

So my question is that I'm going to be seeing this girl at work a few times a week till the end of the summer, what should I do? Should I just try out DJ techniques on her(I'm still looking for other women)? Should I try upping the kino? Become really good friends and use her as social proof?

I do really like her and I still get a bit flustered in her presence(she's got a bangin body, face, great personality) so I need some more practice. What to do, what to do?


Jack
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Practice on her, use her as social proof, but forget about dating her, it isn't too wise to date within the company. BTW if you were truely embracing the DJ way you wouldnt be sitting on the board asking, you would just do what feels natural.
 

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As the saying always goes, "Don't shi*t where you eat."
 

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Yes, but you see I won't be working with this girl for much longer so I don't care. Any advice would be great.

Jack
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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contiue to do whatever .. keep sending + energies to her .. then .. when u or she leave the job .. wait a week or so .. then email her and tell her .. hey .. have not talk to for while .. lets go for coffee ..

thats what i would do.
 

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look i think u should go for it if u like her then just go up and ask her out for dinner and whats the worst that could happen and if she turns you down then go and ask someone else you like out luv emmaxo
 

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Originally posted by JackFrost01

I do really like her and I still get a bit flustered in her presence(she's got a bangin body, face, great personality) so I need some more practice.

Well my man, the first thing you can do is stop putting her on a freaking pedistal. You have to approve of 'her', not the other way around.

Glad to see your 'telling her off in a playful manner'. At least you're heading in the right direction. Now, time to tighten it up a bit. Ignore her, pretend you don't see her. If you have talk to her, come off as if you aren't impressed by her. Hell, act like you're bored. Be sure to end the conversation first, especially if it's going good.

I wouldn't worry so much about 'dating' her or whatever, consider her practice. If she responds, great, if not, who cares? You're probably getting flustered because your putting to much pressure on yourself and coming off anxious or nervous. Believe me, girls can pick up on this. And guess what, they don't like it. Confidence my boy, works everytime .
 

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once u like a girl, u become AFC. ur goal is to have fun and find a way to date the girl, then u can like and love the girl all u want.
 
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