"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm going to work hard to be natural around women

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By that, I mean not desperate, not expecting anything, not wanting anything, no agenda, talking to them strictly to have fun and have a good conversation

Honestly, I think this has been one of my biggest downfalls in the past when I was around somebody I wanted. I wanted it to happen so bad that it was just obvious and I came across as desperate

IMO, best results happen with women when you least expect it. I'm just going to try to talk to hot women everywhere I can and make sure that I come across very genuine.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I would go one step beyond that and talk to everyone in proximity.

Young, old, fat, ugly, skinny, beautiful, mixed race, etc. Doesn't matter. We're all human.

When you remove your agenda, you'll focus more on feeling at ease around anyone. When you do find a target you like... you'll give that person a fair shot and you won't come across as needy because you're socially calibrated. Good luck...
 

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I'm just going to try to talk to hot women everywhere I can and make sure that I come across very genuine.
That may be the first smart thing you've said on this forum.
 

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I would go one step beyond that and talk to everyone in proximity.

Young, old, fat, ugly, skinny, beautiful, mixed race, etc. Doesn't matter. We're all human.

When you remove your agenda, you'll focus more on feeling at ease around anyone. When you do find a target you like... you'll give that person a fair shot and you won't come across as needy because you're socially calibrated. Good luck...

i try to make small talk as much as I can already
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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That may be the first smart thing you've said on this forum.
Umm, but he said "hot" women. He needs to talk to ALL women and have the same standards on each for acceptable conduct.
 

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Umm, but he said "hot" women. He needs to talk to ALL women and have the same standards on each for acceptable conduct.
But he's said before he can talk to women he's not attracted to, and that they all praise him for having such a great personality. His issue is apparently with the girls he's actually attracted to.
 

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But he's said before he can talk to women he's not attracted to, and that they all praise him for having such a great personality. His issue is apparently with the girls he's actually attracted to.
I think he's lying . I don't think he likes talking to ones he don't want .
 

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But he's said before he can talk to women he's not attracted to, and that they all praise him for having such a great personality. His issue is apparently with the girls he's actually attracted to.
I had a nice conversation with a decent looking 27 year old blonde Saturday
I had a nice conversation with another decent looking 26 year old at a bar 2 weeks ago

both of them approached me

I've gotten much much better at talking to decent looking women. My problem is I don't like blondes/light skin women and the second chick was kinda dumb/trashy
 
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