"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Im 27 how many women should i have been with by this age?

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Sexually. Just out of curiosity whats the average number of partners by 27.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thats the problem. I have been with a lot of women and now i feel like a seasoned pornstar. Maybe i should slow it down. PS ive had sex with 20 women in the last two years. :nervous:
 

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I think I've read the stats are if you've had over 15 or 16, you are in the top 1/3 of all men. Maybe it will change since women are getting so easy now[and men not getting married at 21]. BUT, why do you care what the number is? I mean if it's enough for you,thats all that counts. A strong Christian man may be as proud of his celibacy as you are of your 100. In fact, he may know more about women than you do[since most guys stop trying to learn about women once they start sleeping with her].

I'm not breaking records because I'm not interested in numbers, I'm interested in quality[in fact, I'd be perfectly willing to "give up" several I did have]
 

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Who cares?

I know 35 year-olds who have been with maybe 3, and guys my age who have been with 30+. If you are a good-looking guy and you have game I would say 15 +/- 5 is "average".
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Stormbringer said:
Quality > quantity

Totally agree -- are you actually proud of those 4's and 5's you slept with when you were so drunk you couldn't see? I'm not, in fact I would probably deny ever sleeping with any of them if I saw them again.
 

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By 27, I believe my number was nearing 100. That's when I lost count. You have to also keep in mind that I started having sex in 1972 when I was 18, and things were quite different then. 100 sounds like a lot, but it's only about ten girls a year.
 

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If you're happy with that aspect of your life then it's the right number, whether it be 1 or 1000. Don't let other people tell you what you should be doing in something this personal.
 

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Stormbringer said:
Quality > quantity

Totally agree. I'd rather bang 1 Hb10 20 times than 20 5's one time. Now if I could only get 20 Hb10's..:cry:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Opinions please

Sexually. Just out of curiosity whats the socially acceptable number of partners for a 27 year old...

...female?
... male?
 

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Exactly 3.287964

Because we should all conform to societies’ norms.

You should do exactly what others say.

You should live your life by what others think.

You should try to “fit in” and be like everyone else.
 

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Sexually. Just out of curiosity whats the average number of partners by 27.
why bother ? that's the same question as "should I date a '6' or a '8'?"...or "is a 6 inches penis too small" ?...who cares ?

I youre fine with 10 partner at 27 yo, you don"t have to be ashamed if your 25yo friend bangged 10 girls the last years.

The number of sexual partners doesnt make you a better MAN. It only makes you more confident and better in bed (I guess).
You could have fvcked 150 girl and be as dumb as Lloyd Christmas. :whistle:

That"s quite difficult to remember all the name of some girls I knew...

cheers
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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about 12
 

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I am at 9 (or 10) at age 25 and I can't be really proud of the quality. But f*ck it, Ima do some quality girls in brighter future that is waiting for me ;)
 

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It's not about how many women you've ƒucked up to now. It's about how many women want to ƒuck you now. Quality comes from quantity.
 

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100+ is crazy. I don't even think I'd want to sleep with that many women. It seems to me it would be statistically impossible not to contract an STD with those numbers, even with a condom.

I've been with around 22-24 girls, and honestly if I were to get married I wouldn't feel like I've "missed out" on pvssy. The only thing I'd wish is that I spent more time banging hotter girls, lol, like most of us probably do. :D But when you're young you tend to be an opportunist.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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