"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

If more women sunbathed in their backyards in bikinis, would there be less slut-shamers in the world?

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
If women did that with 10 year-old boy neighbors, who looked out their 2nd floor window and saw their 20 year-old female neighbor sunbathing in bikinis, will there be less slut-shamers in the world?

How many of you want sons that will become slut-shamers?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
So basically.

Why do women not care when a guy tells them "you're not having sex with enough men, you should do it more" but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
 

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
 

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
Well then, this is a double-edged sword, if you don't want to know about it, then you can't enforce it.
 

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
I had no intention of deflecting. I fully absorbed your points.

I’m sorry if I came across as if I was.
My argument is about prevention.
Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.
I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
 

Millard Fillmore

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 9, 2023
Messages
806
Reaction score
786
No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
Children begin deceiving their parents at a very early age. Sometimes they're caught, sometimes not. Sometimes they fess up. It's just something that all kids do. By the time they are teenagers MOST will find ways to keep parents in the dark on some behaviors.

I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.
This is probably the best way to mitigate it. Parents don't need to be best buds with their kids but they can make them feel comfortable with dialogue, at least.
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
I think it has to do with likes and like-mindedness. If they're the type to want to be religious as you, or same political party as you, they'll be open about it. So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys, you'll only know if they're like-minded as you.

But keeping secrets is just as with any other liked or non-liked mindedness.

But I feel like religion, political party, and slut-shamingness are 3 big 1s.

Edit: and I think there's a lot of families where the daughters only share with their moms who they slept with, all keeping it a secret from the father.
 
Last edited:

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys,
I suppose. Though I’m not going to show approval for that which I don’t. Neither is my wife.

But any daughter has a choice for unacceptable behavior. Parents have choices too. To wit, if a daughter chooses to be a sl-t and parents disapprove, they can cut ties with her after she turns eighteen years old. Same goes for sons with unacceptable behavior.
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
Damn, so now I know why I'm an incel. Women are brought up by their fathers to.

I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
Oh yes, if a father is air headed and doesn’t educate his son on what women are like. My son will be well informed. Plus I have a library of related must-read books for him.
 

Doctor Europeo

Moderator
Joined
Mar 6, 2017
Messages
4,430
Reaction score
4,819
Location
Mexico
What on earth are you motherf0ckers going on about? Someone please give me a f0cking TLDR.
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
 

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,905
Reaction score
1,652
Age
48
So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
 

NealIRC

Banned
Joined
Mar 4, 2023
Messages
802
Reaction score
153
Age
38
It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
The last couple of days, I been hanging out in a Hispanic gang-infested area, looking to hire a bilingual person to translate for me. Supposedly, girls in gangs don't just hang out on street corners anymore like they did in the '70s and '80s. So I been having a hard time even finding women. Supposedly trick-or-treating was a bigger thing back then too, I don't know what feminism has to do with these changes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

Top