"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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If more women sunbathed in their backyards in bikinis, would there be less slut-shamers in the world?

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If women did that with 10 year-old boy neighbors, who looked out their 2nd floor window and saw their 20 year-old female neighbor sunbathing in bikinis, will there be less slut-shamers in the world?

How many of you want sons that will become slut-shamers?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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So basically.

Why do women not care when a guy tells them "you're not having sex with enough men, you should do it more" but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
 

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but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
 

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Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
 

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The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
 

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Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
Well then, this is a double-edged sword, if you don't want to know about it, then you can't enforce it.
 

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The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
I had no intention of deflecting. I fully absorbed your points.

I’m sorry if I came across as if I was.
My argument is about prevention.
Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
 

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Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.
I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
 

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No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
Children begin deceiving their parents at a very early age. Sometimes they're caught, sometimes not. Sometimes they fess up. It's just something that all kids do. By the time they are teenagers MOST will find ways to keep parents in the dark on some behaviors.

I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.
This is probably the best way to mitigate it. Parents don't need to be best buds with their kids but they can make them feel comfortable with dialogue, at least.
 

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I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
I think it has to do with likes and like-mindedness. If they're the type to want to be religious as you, or same political party as you, they'll be open about it. So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys, you'll only know if they're like-minded as you.

But keeping secrets is just as with any other liked or non-liked mindedness.

But I feel like religion, political party, and slut-shamingness are 3 big 1s.

Edit: and I think there's a lot of families where the daughters only share with their moms who they slept with, all keeping it a secret from the father.
 
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So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys,
I suppose. Though I’m not going to show approval for that which I don’t. Neither is my wife.

But any daughter has a choice for unacceptable behavior. Parents have choices too. To wit, if a daughter chooses to be a sl-t and parents disapprove, they can cut ties with her after she turns eighteen years old. Same goes for sons with unacceptable behavior.
 

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Damn, so now I know why I'm an incel. Women are brought up by their fathers to.

I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
Oh yes, if a father is air headed and doesn’t educate his son on what women are like. My son will be well informed. Plus I have a library of related must-read books for him.
 

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What on earth are you motherf0ckers going on about? Someone please give me a f0cking TLDR.
 

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So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
 

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So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
 

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It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
The last couple of days, I been hanging out in a Hispanic gang-infested area, looking to hire a bilingual person to translate for me. Supposedly, girls in gangs don't just hang out on street corners anymore like they did in the '70s and '80s. So I been having a hard time even finding women. Supposedly trick-or-treating was a bigger thing back then too, I don't know what feminism has to do with these changes.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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