"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If more women sunbathed in their backyards in bikinis, would there be less slut-shamers in the world?

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If women did that with 10 year-old boy neighbors, who looked out their 2nd floor window and saw their 20 year-old female neighbor sunbathing in bikinis, will there be less slut-shamers in the world?

How many of you want sons that will become slut-shamers?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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So basically.

Why do women not care when a guy tells them "you're not having sex with enough men, you should do it more" but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
 

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but they do care when a guy shames them for sleeping with too many guys.
Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
 

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Who enjoys shame? No one. Hence it’s used as a corrective measure.
Do you want a wh-re of a daughter?
The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
 

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The downfall to having a wh-re of a daughter, is she won't tell you about it if she knows you're the slut-shamer.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
 

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Sure that can happen. But a father would likely be a fool to not know. I grew up with such women. And if I were their father, I’d likely, though not definitely, know.

Are you concerned about the tender feelings or such women? Why?
The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
Also, would such a daughter tell her pal for a dad (something he shouldn’t be) such a thing? “Hey daddy, because you’re such a nice daddy, there’s something I wanna tell ya…”
Well then, this is a double-edged sword, if you don't want to know about it, then you can't enforce it.
 

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The argument isn't if you're a fool to not know or know. Way to deflect.

My argument is about prevention.
I had no intention of deflecting. I fully absorbed your points.

I’m sorry if I came across as if I was.
My argument is about prevention.
Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
 

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Do you mean prevention of whorishness or slur-shaming?
No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.
I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
 

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No, prevention of your kids keeping secrets from you.

Here's another analogy: religious parents having kids that become non-believers. And you'll live your whole life a lie thinking your kids are as religious as you.
Children begin deceiving their parents at a very early age. Sometimes they're caught, sometimes not. Sometimes they fess up. It's just something that all kids do. By the time they are teenagers MOST will find ways to keep parents in the dark on some behaviors.

I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.
This is probably the best way to mitigate it. Parents don't need to be best buds with their kids but they can make them feel comfortable with dialogue, at least.
 

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I believe that’s prevented by high-investment parenting with welcomed communication and understanding.

What do you think?

Do you want children?
I think it has to do with likes and like-mindedness. If they're the type to want to be religious as you, or same political party as you, they'll be open about it. So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys, you'll only know if they're like-minded as you.

But keeping secrets is just as with any other liked or non-liked mindedness.

But I feel like religion, political party, and slut-shamingness are 3 big 1s.

Edit: and I think there's a lot of families where the daughters only share with their moms who they slept with, all keeping it a secret from the father.
 
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So if you let them know ahead of time you don't blame women for sleeping with a lot of guys,
I suppose. Though I’m not going to show approval for that which I don’t. Neither is my wife.

But any daughter has a choice for unacceptable behavior. Parents have choices too. To wit, if a daughter chooses to be a sl-t and parents disapprove, they can cut ties with her after she turns eighteen years old. Same goes for sons with unacceptable behavior.
 

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Damn, so now I know why I'm an incel. Women are brought up by their fathers to.

I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I used to think I'm an incel because women aren't into me, but now I can know men are partially to blame too.
Oh yes, if a father is air headed and doesn’t educate his son on what women are like. My son will be well informed. Plus I have a library of related must-read books for him.
 

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What on earth are you motherf0ckers going on about? Someone please give me a f0cking TLDR.
 

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So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
 

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So if men are big-time slut-shamers, then incels should be valued, no? It also could mean women could value incels if incels won't judge.
It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
 

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It appears you need a primer on what caused the incel crisis in the first place.

I suggest you read Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin for such a primer.

I think you’re not fond of what I have to say. So I’ll bow out of this. And no, I’m not being sarcastic or condescending.
The last couple of days, I been hanging out in a Hispanic gang-infested area, looking to hire a bilingual person to translate for me. Supposedly, girls in gangs don't just hang out on street corners anymore like they did in the '70s and '80s. So I been having a hard time even finding women. Supposedly trick-or-treating was a bigger thing back then too, I don't know what feminism has to do with these changes.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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