If a woman gives friction or hesitation, CUT HER OFF!

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Well Jhonnie,
I know a few Italian Women,seem like most others one meets,the only exceptional thing is their Mothers taught them to cook!
I didn't know they had crocs in Italy
 

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Stickied for a while because guys really need to not waste time on disinterested women. Tell me what I got wrong.
Nah, you are 100 % right imo.

Yet iirc there still seems to ne this sentiment that there are EXCEPTIONS ti this golden rule...and that's where men lose.

A man should have a personal law. Rules set in stone. That means it shouldn't matter if she is an hb2 or hb10.

My experience showed me that as soon as you try to make exceptions, you're losing. The power dynamic shifts in HER favor, and makes you as a man look weak. Women can sense you want it too bad, which most of time means you have no other options.
 

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It’s 2026. She has men on the gram, sms, and every other communication platform hitting her up.

Treat it like sales, keep hitting up your leads periodically because eventually they may bite.

Automate it if you have to…
 

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It’s 2026. She has men on the gram, sms, and every other communication platform hitting her up.

Treat it like sales, keep hitting up your leads periodically because eventually they may bite.

Automate it if you have to…
A wise salesman wastes no time on weak leads, he courts only the golden ones.

Respect your time and EFFORt because someone who wants you will respect your time and effort!
 

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This advice is a bit dated and won't work for most men. Some of my best lays, and my current girl, we're both acquired after a bit of resistance.

Once you start working in sales, you begin to understand these things much better.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This advice is a bit dated and won't work for most men. Some of my best lays, and my current girl, we're both acquired after a bit of resistance.

Once you start working in sales, you begin to understand these things much better.
Fair enough.

However, from personal experience, women who showed low interest off the bat very rarely came around. I’ve only seen it work maybe 3% of the time(personally), and even in those rare cases it never actually went anywhere meaningful.

A top salesman doesn’t waste time chasing lukewarm leads. He has a full pipeline, so if a prospect goes cold he’s completely unfazed he just moves on to the next one. Pursuing a woman who doesn’t respond with real interest right away is a dummy mission. It burns your time and energy while killing your momentum.

Abundance mixed with indifference is what truly gets you the type of women who put in effort off the bat.
 

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This advice is a bit dated and won't work for most men. Some of my best lays, and my current girl, we're both acquired after a bit of resistance.
I've definitely done it before. I just brushed off the resistance, stayed cool and fun, and eventually they warmed up to the idea.
 

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One thing you gotta keep in mind is how many damn songs that are popular today have the heartbreak victim/woe is me mentality in the lyrics. It's the vast majority of them and it didn't used to be like this.

Impressionable chicks hear these and it subconsciously puts them on the defensive. Plus the fact many of them are phucked out anyway.
 

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This advice is a bit dated and won't work for most men. Some of my best lays, and my current girl, we're both acquired after a bit of resistance.

Once you start working in sales, you begin to understand these things much better.
By resistance, do you mean women flaking on a date vs resistance on a date/while with you? If the former, are you saying that he should basically keep chasing her even if she flaked on a date with him once? Or do you purely mean resistance when she is already with you somewhere?
'Some of my best lays, and my current girl, we're both acquired after a bit of resistance.' - how, how strongly and how long did they 'hesitate' before accepting your advances?
 
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I've definitely done it before. I just brushed off the resistance, stayed cool and fun, and eventually they warmed up to the idea.
I read here (can’t remember what post) that if girls didn’t put up tests or some resistance, their body count would be higher, and I imagine also they don’t want to be perceived as “easy”.

What worked for me is a two times rule. I’ll try to move things forward twice. Then, I’ll leave the ball on their side. It worked yesterday. A girl told me twice she was busy and then I just said as you guys suggested “no problem, let me know when you are free”. Well, 3 days later she sent me a text asking me to go out.

I think some resistance has to be expected. But we will need real experience to distinguish between “honest resistance” and a girl not interested just making you lose your time.
 

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I read here (can’t remember what post) that if girls didn’t put up tests or some resistance, their body count would be higher, and I imagine also they don’t want to be perceived as “easy”.

What worked for me is a two times rule. I’ll try to move things forward twice. Then, I’ll leave the ball on their side. It worked yesterday. A girl told me twice she was busy and then I just said as you guys suggested “no problem, let me know when you are free”. Well, 3 days later she sent me a text asking me to go out.

I think some resistance has to be expected. But we will need real experience to distinguish between “honest resistance” and a girl not interested just making you lose your time.
It's not bad advice, but here the thing;

A man gotta LEARN to cut women off. Because there's basically two flavours; you cut her off or you keep chasing. Yes chasing. Because IF she pulled back and you interpret it as " natural p0ssy protection resistance ", you might be somewhere between annoying dude and stalker without even knowing it.

Of you deal with women, you gotta be ready for the pullback.if it happens you ought to recognise it and move accordingly, meaning you mirror her behaviour and pull back as well.

There's never a nice way to do this, because it inherently means the interaction/ seduction failed for whatever reason. But..that's part of being a man...dealing with rejection during every stage ,even after fecking jer and even after a long term relationship.
 

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It's not bad advice, but here the thing;

A man gotta LEARN to cut women off. Because there's basically two flavours; you cut her off or you keep chasing. Yes chasing. Because IF she pulled back and you interpret it as " natural p0ssy protection resistance ", you might be somewhere between annoying dude and stalker without even knowing it.

Of you deal with women, you gotta be ready for the pullback.if it happens you ought to recognise it and move accordingly, meaning you mirror her behaviour and pull back as well.

There's never a nice way to do this, because it inherently means the interaction/ seduction failed for whatever reason. But..that's part of being a man...dealing with rejection during every stage ,even after fecking jer and even after a long term relationship.
I kind of get it. Of course I’ve been rejected, but there might not be a way to know if the resistance is temporary until you act.The only experience I have with girls pulling back is: flaking without telling me (which of course ends up with me never chasing), flaking but giving me a reason (I try one more time), at the beginning just ghosting me (in that case I NEVER double text), saying not yet to physical escalation (this in a more intimate way, which of course then you have to see how she acts and how she says things), and I guess that’s it.

The advice to try twice, I think can be good but you do have to be aware of the context and how things are communicated. Not every resistance warrants another try.

The other advice of paying more attention to how she acts than what she says can also be relevant. Sometimes you just need more time, more comfort.

What I want to say is that this very specific advice of cutting off chicks that give any kind of resistance isn’t really helpful. Chicks come with several personalities, insecurities, tastes, backgrounds, etc.

Is the girl worth the struggle? Maybe, that’s up to us to decide. What I think definitely isn’t worth to try or reward is low interest. In this world however there can be interest, and hesitance at the same time.
 

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I think some resistance has to be expected. But we will need real experience to distinguish between “honest resistance” and a girl not interested just making you lose your time.
I think in some cases it had genuinely never crossed the girl's mind before. But if you give her a little time to think on it, she might like the idea.
 

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I think in some cases it had genuinely never crossed the girl's mind before. But if you give her a little time to think on it, she might like the idea.
Zekko, I lost the train of thought here. Can you give a little more context? What never crossed the girl’s mind before regarding what I said?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Zekko, I lost the train of thought here. Can you give a little more context? What never crossed the girl’s mind before regarding what I said?
I'm saying if you know a girl and she's a friend or acquaintance, and you want to step things up a bit, she might say let's go out as friends. But maybe she hasn't really considered it before, and once she has a little time to think it over, she might be down for it, even excited about it. So even if you go out as friends, you might still be able to successfully escalate. You have to have a sense of the situation though.

I know of a few women right now who had lifelong friends who recently decided they wanted to get sexual. And both the women went along with it. In fact, one of the women is really hung up on the guy right now, because he wanted to keep things casual and she decided she wanted more.
 

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I'm saying if you know a girl and she's a friend or acquaintance, and you want to step things up a bit, she might say let's go out as friends. But maybe she hasn't really considered it before, and once she has a little time to think it over, she might be down for it, even excited about it. So even if you go out as friends, you might still be able to successfully escalate. You have to have a sense of the situation though.

I know of a few women right now who had lifelong friends who recently decided they wanted to get sexual. And both the women went along with it. In fact, one of the women is really hung up on the guy right now, because he wanted to keep things casual and she decided she wanted more.
Twice in my life that happened to me. Although I do not if maybe it was because I wasn't really the "tell me everything" kind of friend. I mainly made them laugh and did stuff.

Funny how girls get hung up when a guy just wants something casual and doesn't care if even they see other people.
 

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Funny how girls get hung up when a guy just wants something casual and doesn't care if even they see other people.
that’s because women always have in the back of their mind that things will go towards an LTR

They just lie themselves when they say that they are ok only in a fwb relationship

women know very well that sex makes them get feelings, that is why they do not have sex with anyone when they are horny for the sake of getting laid
 
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