When I touched her shoulder it was like I could sense she was freezing up, like I didn't know if it was cuz she was nervous and liked it, or just didn't like it. I generally get positive female reactions to me cuz of my shape, (i never got it before when i was out of shape), if that helps you guys maybe understand the situation better.
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If a girl freezes when you touch her shoulder is this a good or bad sign?
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Technical1
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this is a good sign. if you want to understand how women react to the world, think about how AFCs react to the world. When I was AFC, the girl I wanted most asked me "Do you want a girlfriend?" and I said "No." and looked at the ground! That was 5 years ago, now I would have kinoed her and given a playful answer. Younger and shy women act like total AFCs, you have to initiate every step, but they will let you progress, because they want it like a fvcking wolf wants raw meat. Women's reaction pattern, unless they are mature, have game, and experience with men, is EXACTLY like an male AFCs, in my experience. When I approach a shy girl, I think, she has the same AFC complex that I had all my life till now. Take the lead and liberate her from her fears!
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Picture yourself in her shoes when you were an AFC. If this really hot girl that you liked touched your shoulder, you would probably react the same. This is a good thing.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
MooseGod
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I dunno...there's this really ugly fat chick I work with and she'll try to touch me on the shoulder or something when she walks by and I freeze out of horror and disgust. So it could be a good thing or a bad thing...
penkitten
Master Don Juan
perhaps she isnt used to people just walking up and touching her?
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
nando said:
Doesn't sound like a good sign. If a girl really liked you and touched you on the shoulder and you froze up, do you think it was because you wanted to sleep her? Do you think she would think "wow, this guy is really into me by freezing up!"
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What the fvck? Overanalyze much?