When I touched her shoulder it was like I could sense she was freezing up, like I didn't know if it was cuz she was nervous and liked it, or just didn't like it. I generally get positive female reactions to me cuz of my shape, (i never got it before when i was out of shape), if that helps you guys maybe understand the situation better.
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If a girl freezes when you touch her shoulder is this a good or bad sign?
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Technical1
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this is a good sign. if you want to understand how women react to the world, think about how AFCs react to the world. When I was AFC, the girl I wanted most asked me "Do you want a girlfriend?" and I said "No." and looked at the ground! That was 5 years ago, now I would have kinoed her and given a playful answer. Younger and shy women act like total AFCs, you have to initiate every step, but they will let you progress, because they want it like a fvcking wolf wants raw meat. Women's reaction pattern, unless they are mature, have game, and experience with men, is EXACTLY like an male AFCs, in my experience. When I approach a shy girl, I think, she has the same AFC complex that I had all my life till now. Take the lead and liberate her from her fears!
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Picture yourself in her shoes when you were an AFC. If this really hot girl that you liked touched your shoulder, you would probably react the same. This is a good thing.
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Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
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MooseGod
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I dunno...there's this really ugly fat chick I work with and she'll try to touch me on the shoulder or something when she walks by and I freeze out of horror and disgust. So it could be a good thing or a bad thing...
penkitten
Master Don Juan
perhaps she isnt used to people just walking up and touching her?
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
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nando said:
Doesn't sound like a good sign. If a girl really liked you and touched you on the shoulder and you froze up, do you think it was because you wanted to sleep her? Do you think she would think "wow, this guy is really into me by freezing up!"
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What the fvck? Overanalyze much?