When I touched her shoulder it was like I could sense she was freezing up, like I didn't know if it was cuz she was nervous and liked it, or just didn't like it. I generally get positive female reactions to me cuz of my shape, (i never got it before when i was out of shape), if that helps you guys maybe understand the situation better.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
If a girl freezes when you touch her shoulder is this a good or bad sign?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Technical1
Senior Don Juan
this is a good sign. if you want to understand how women react to the world, think about how AFCs react to the world. When I was AFC, the girl I wanted most asked me "Do you want a girlfriend?" and I said "No." and looked at the ground! That was 5 years ago, now I would have kinoed her and given a playful answer. Younger and shy women act like total AFCs, you have to initiate every step, but they will let you progress, because they want it like a fvcking wolf wants raw meat. Women's reaction pattern, unless they are mature, have game, and experience with men, is EXACTLY like an male AFCs, in my experience. When I approach a shy girl, I think, she has the same AFC complex that I had all my life till now. Take the lead and liberate her from her fears!
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Picture yourself in her shoes when you were an AFC. If this really hot girl that you liked touched your shoulder, you would probably react the same. This is a good thing.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MooseGod
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I dunno...there's this really ugly fat chick I work with and she'll try to touch me on the shoulder or something when she walks by and I freeze out of horror and disgust. So it could be a good thing or a bad thing...
penkitten
Master Don Juan
perhaps she isnt used to people just walking up and touching her?
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
i dont think it means anything but simple reaction.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
nando said:
Doesn't sound like a good sign. If a girl really liked you and touched you on the shoulder and you froze up, do you think it was because you wanted to sleep her? Do you think she would think "wow, this guy is really into me by freezing up!"
Kev07
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What the fvck? Overanalyze much?