I used a backhanded compliment I got from this forum , basically this girl nice body gym gear always comes in for a coffee in her gym gear, she was talking about exercise , so I said why do you exercise so much your not even that fat, after that I asked what are you up to on the weekend, she said nothing much and then she asks me what are you doing, I replied going to this Halloween party's that are popular where I live , then she asks me what about Saturday night I didn't reply is this s iOi?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I used a backhanded compliment
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I said it basically she was talking about a pergnet girl at her work, and I thought she was pergnet herself , and she's always in her gym gear so I said are you pergnet she said no way , I said basically well why do you exercise so much your not that fat .
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
Advice: Never ask a women if she is free are what she is doing on a weekend, this makes you look weak. TELL HER what you are doing and ask her out, if she is busy, then she'll tell you and if she likes you she'll suggest something else, when she does this and yo are available take it, this is a strong IOI. If she says no without a counter offer get her number, if it's a good number call in in a few days ask her out, if she gives you excuses without a counter, flush the number and forget about her.
So... you stopped responding and ended the conversation there for no apparent reason...?
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
This is solid advice. +1.
Always be a man with a plan who sometimes invites others into his activities.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Well I was making chit chat fair enough , it was like what you up to on the weekend , and then she's asking me what I'm doing because the few times we chatted she's always doing nothing on the week end , so I was telling her I was busy I understand what you mean ranger mike , well next time she comes in to my work any ideas how I should proceed , what's the best things to talk about when I see her next ?