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Lets say generally a low quality sign in terms of long term relationships given promiscuity, dtf-ness and a high body count being the best indicators.
Her Dtf-ness has no merit of or indication of her promiscuity.
If you are Alpha she is fcking you right quick.
The best indicators of how big a slut she is...is how she BEHAVES while in public and in your circle...family friends etc.....
A girl looking to fvk her way up will give off tell tale clues if you know wtf you are doing in the first place.
If you have no value in a group... a high SMV female (AKA 8+) will sniff your bullshyt out like a bloodhound.
 
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A few tats are fine, but if a woman is spending $15k on sleeves instead of investing in assets then that tells me she's not high quality....

Keep in mind tats arent a one time deal, they require yearly touch-ups.....
 

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Her Dtf-ness has no merit of or indication of her promiscuity.
If you are Alpha she is fcking you right quick.
The best indicators of how big a slut she is...is how she BEHAVES while in public and in your circle...family friends etc.....
A girl looking to fvk her way up will give off tell tale clues if you know wtf you are doing in the first place.
If you have no value in a group... a high SMV female (AKA 8+) will sniff your bullshyt out like a bloodhound.
So in your opinion a girl that let her bang you the same night you met cause you are "alpha" never done it before and is wife material?

Just asking to see if I got it right, personally all the girls I banged the same night were promiscuous and surely not ltr material.

I dont believe in girls that "dont usually make it the first night" as they say but somehow just did it with me.

How much time you needed with your current gf before getting intimate?
 

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Her Dtf-ness has no merit of or indication of her promiscuity.
If you are Alpha she is fcking you right quick.
The best indicators of how big a slut she is...is how she BEHAVES while in public and in your circle...family friends etc.....
Just asking to see if I got it right, personally all the girls I banged the same night were promiscuous and surely not ltr material.

I dont believe in girls that "dont usually make it the first night" as they say but somehow just did it with me.

How much time you needed with your current gf before getting intimate?
I don't think getting sex on the first date ends the possibility of an LTR. Sex on the first date is a good sign of you as a man demonstrating attractiven behaviors/mindset + the possibility she is ovulating that day.
 

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So in your opinion a girl that let her bang you the same night you met cause you are "alpha" never done it before and is wife material?
The quality women that makes a beta wait until the 5th date is the same girl dropping panties for the alpha resort manager out back of the hotel on vacation.
This is just not a reliable indicator of wife material.
Behavior in your circle and obedience to what you ask of her and especially any boundaries you have. Thats the reliable factor. Obediance


I know a few guys that are in LTR that refuse to fly. They don't travel and I'm not saying this is fact but i wonder when their wives go on these vacations ( as they go anyway) have been jizz filled to the rim while on "vacation"
It probably happens more then we know.
 

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The quality women that makes a beta wait until the 5th date is the same girl dropping panties for the alpha resort manager out back of the hotel on vacation.
This is just not a reliable indicator of wife material.
Behavior in your circle and obedience to what you ask of her and especially any boundaries you have. Thats the reliable factor. Obediance


I know a few guys that are in LTR that refuse to fly. They don't travel and I'm not saying this is fact but i wonder when their wives go on these vacations ( as they go anyway) have been jizz filled to the rim while on "vacation"
It probably happens more then we know.
Totally agree with the first concept, absolutely.

I still however cant take too seriously a girl that gives me everything the first night, surely its a good sign of interest but I find it very unlikely that Im the first guy she did it.

I would be much more satisfied with enough intimacy to make it clear that she is into me but not too much that makes me doubt that she is used to it.

But again Im not in a ltr so dont know, maybe you can tell me about your case?
 

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I know a few guys that are in LTR that refuse to fly. They don't travel and I'm not saying this is fact but i wonder when their wives go on these vacations ( as they go anyway) have been jizz filled to the rim while on "vacation"
It probably happens more then we know.
I agree completely. I don't know any guys who don't travel with their girlfriends or wives.
 

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I agree completely. I don't know any guys who don't travel with their girlfriends or wives.
I know many altough not cause they are scared to fly, most of them are married men who are fine being cheated as long as they have some freedom to enjoy their lifes without their wifes around.

A guy I know that has a very important role in the european parliament is one of those, he is fine with his wife getting railed in spain during her vacations as long as he is free to keep in pace with his work and bang one of his secretaries with no concern of being caught.
 

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I know many altough not cause they are scared to fly, most of them are married men who are fine being cheated as long as they have some freedom to enjoy their lifes without their wifes around.

A guy I know that has a very important role in the european parliament is one of those, he is fine with his wife getting railed in spain during her vacations as long as he is free to keep in pace with his work and bang one of his secretaries with no concern of being caught.
Dude those people just need to be killed. I’m sorry, but that’s just degeneracy on a whole other level. I hate hearing crap like that. It’s an abomination.
 

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Dude those people just need to be killed. I’m sorry, but that’s just degeneracy on a whole other level. I hate hearing crap like that. It’s an abomination.
Thats what happens when you cant get rid of a woman without losing your house and half of your money, the abomination is the law that regulates marriages in 2020.
 

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Thats what happens when you cant get rid of a woman without losing your house and half of your money, the abomination is the law that regulates marriages in 2020.
Well ain’t that the truth. The law should really gtfo of marriages.

Interestingly enough, there’s this one pornstar by the name of Malena la Pugliese (stage name) who was a politician (or was married to one, or both; something like that anyway). Marriage in the West is damned.
 

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Thats what happens when you cant get rid of a woman without losing your house and half of your money, the abomination is the law that regulates marriages in 2020.
Be more choosey. If you know yourself and live by that you will know won't you?
 

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I would be much more satisfied with enough intimacy to make it clear that she is into me but not too much that makes me doubt that she is used to it.
So i think you are referring to balance here. And that is good.
But i will tell you that you will be much better off guaging her behavior and how she treats you.
Intimacy is the product of respect. Not emotions.
 

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Hard to say, probably I still see women the way they were seen 50 years ago but its not a problem since Im not looking for a relationship.

Be more choosey. If you know yourself and live by that you will know won't you?
Well Im not married nor engaged so not my problem, regarding those men as you know from many users here also, you marry a woman and within two years you cant really tell what she becomes.

The big problem in such situations is that you really cant correct her misbehaviours if she doesnt want, you cant force her to make a diet and you cant leave her if she misbehave and she knows it.

They know that you cant leave them if you are married unless you are willing to pay their weight in gold...and their weight usually becomes a lot after the ring.

So i think you are referring to balance here. And that is good.
But i will tell you that you will be much better off guaging her behavior and how she treats you.
Intimacy is the product of respect. Not emotions.
I agree with the respect point and I would add also consideration of your value, I respect many people while still recognizing that their overall value is low so guess it happens the same for women.
 

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Tatoos are for sheep! I proudly have ZERO
At this point, it can be argued that having 0 tattoos is countercultural.

I know many altough not cause they are scared to fly, most of them are married men who are fine being cheated as long as they have some freedom to enjoy their lifes without their wifes around.

A guy I know that has a very important role in the european parliament is one of those, he is fine with his wife getting railed in spain during her vacations as long as he is free to keep in pace with his work and bang one of his secretaries with no concern of being caught.
There are 2 different situations here:

If a wife or girlfriend is cheating and the man isn't, he's a complete cuck.

If both parts in a relationship are cheating, it is a bad monogamous relationship that probably should end or be re-classified as an open relationships. In an open relationship, there isn't exactly cheating. Open relationships are a different can of worms.
 

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At this point, it can be argued that having 0 tattoos is countercultural.

Yeah, I hope you are right. I feel like having zero tattoos, you are now the different one.

There are 2 different situations here:

If a wife or girlfriend is cheating and the man isn't, he's a complete cuck.

If both parts in a relationship are cheating, it is a bad monogamous relationship that probably should end or be re-classified as an open relationships. In an open relationship, there isn't exactly cheating. Open relationships are a different can of worms.
 

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Good topic OP and i agree.

You can’t fault a woman too much in this day and age for having a small concealable tattoo of a relative or a loved one’s name, birthday, etc. to preserve their memory in her skin.

But more than that and she’s psychologically and/or emotionally damaged, did it because other females are, thinks it makes her edgy, independent and attractive, or a combination of the 3. At the end of the day, women with tattoos are rarely long term relationship material and men should be thankful that these damaged women make it easy for us to spot them.

I still however cant take too seriously a girl that gives me everything the first night
Also agree 100%. This topic has been talked about before on here and the consensus (from men with alot of experience) is that she will always be worse as a long-term option, compared to women who will give you some resistance. Note i didn't say deliberately make you wait in a manner of playing a game, the key is to see progress. Kiss on first date, heavy makeout session on date 2, sex on date 3. Something like that is a sign of quality.
A woman who doesn't put out the first night will pretty much always make for a better girlfriend, all else being equal.
Why that is i have no clue but maybe it's a sign high amount of self-respect, confidence and good rolemodels growing up. Traits found in high quality women.
 
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