Knight's Cross
Senior Don Juan
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Day 2 complete, ignored a bunch of calls and text messages. Getting there, feeling better.
KC
KC
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
YOu are doing good ,KCKnight's Cross said:Good point PE, however they are known by everyone of my friends, family, and coworkers. I've called her cel provider and blocked her inbound calls and texts. That should send a more clear message. As well as blocking inbound e-mail.
KC
Holding Ground and spooling up new opportunities.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Wise man, that's really wise. (i mean it no sarcasm).Metro3pilot said:If we all did the right thing or tossed a biyotch when we should have .....
would we even have the sosuave message board ?
:rockon:
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Knight's Cross said:PE
The woman in the grocery store may also be clingy, BPD, or needy You just don't know till you have gotten to know her.
JOPHIL***
Exactly right KC. Women with personality disorders are experts at holding up a facade . They do it in real life very skillfully too. Our mission is to know what scams to look for and when to bail .
You did make a great point about why did I stay with her? What attracted me to her when she treated me poorly?
JOPHIL ***
Their poor behavior does not emerge until they know that is is "safe" to revert to their natural or habitual behavior - that is - you are "hooked" . These women give Academy AWard winning performences gentlemen.
She knew I was faithful, she then got lazy, and my confidence drained away. In the absence of leadership, she started taking the frame. Thats not including her other issues that made her a poor candidate.
JOPHIL****
THis last para above sums up beautufully what happens in a relationship with a Pers Disordered woman.
ONce the downward spiral begins it is only a matter of time before you reach the crash zone.
This " downward spiral " IS her natural envirionment, THis is where she feels "at home" ..
BPD women contribute NOTHING positive to LTRs . They just become more destructive over time and you get crazier trying to stabilize her and the relationship .
JOPHIL ****
For me, wisdom emerged AFTER the breakup. It is impossible to "manage" these women at the time ..they are GoldMedal wackjobs.
Lesson #1 . BPD women are not fit for an LTR. EVER !
Lesson #2 . Bail at the FIRST display of significant disrespct. The first sign of disrespect is an indication that you have entered upon the downward spiral.
You now are in HER frame unless you walk away
Lessom #3 . You cannot talk to, or negotiate with a Pers Disordered women.
These women thrive on creating conflict and upset, covertly . The roller coaster is their playground. Life to them, feels natural when it is turmoil. Equilibrium seems to create an anxiety state.
Lesson #4 . IT is not possible (or wise ) for YOU to try to rehabilitate a Pers Disordered women.
These are the women who make Therapists jump from tall buildings.
Lesson #5 . If you feel endlessly "hungry" in a relationship ,if you feel anxious and uncertain, if you feel more unstable and unsure over time, then you are with a Pers Disordered women. Why ? because they never contribute or play their part.Their mental energy goes into "mindfvcking" you. They just take and expect you to give more and more while you get less and less.
**** Be aware and vigilant, men - approx 3% of the female population is seriously wacko and a large percenage is sub-clinical . I have had about 25 some odd LTRs and FORTUNATELY only one with a Pers Dis.woman, and that was enough for me.
They are out there - lurking in wait.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Hey Metro - 3 wackos -wow. You sure got more that your share.Metro3pilot said:looking back I have been involved with at least 3 .....
wow ....... I remember they all were showing red flags at the beginning .... I either ignored them or rationalyzed them .....
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.