Knight's Cross
Senior Don Juan
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Day 2 complete, ignored a bunch of calls and text messages. Getting there, feeling better.
KC
KC
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
YOu are doing good ,KCKnight's Cross said:Good point PE, however they are known by everyone of my friends, family, and coworkers. I've called her cel provider and blocked her inbound calls and texts. That should send a more clear message. As well as blocking inbound e-mail.
KC
Holding Ground and spooling up new opportunities.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Wise man, that's really wise. (i mean it no sarcasm).Metro3pilot said:If we all did the right thing or tossed a biyotch when we should have .....
would we even have the sosuave message board ?
:rockon:
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Knight's Cross said:PE
The woman in the grocery store may also be clingy, BPD, or needy You just don't know till you have gotten to know her.
JOPHIL***
Exactly right KC. Women with personality disorders are experts at holding up a facade . They do it in real life very skillfully too. Our mission is to know what scams to look for and when to bail .
You did make a great point about why did I stay with her? What attracted me to her when she treated me poorly?
JOPHIL ***
Their poor behavior does not emerge until they know that is is "safe" to revert to their natural or habitual behavior - that is - you are "hooked" . These women give Academy AWard winning performences gentlemen.
She knew I was faithful, she then got lazy, and my confidence drained away. In the absence of leadership, she started taking the frame. Thats not including her other issues that made her a poor candidate.
JOPHIL****
THis last para above sums up beautufully what happens in a relationship with a Pers Disordered woman.
ONce the downward spiral begins it is only a matter of time before you reach the crash zone.
This " downward spiral " IS her natural envirionment, THis is where she feels "at home" ..
BPD women contribute NOTHING positive to LTRs . They just become more destructive over time and you get crazier trying to stabilize her and the relationship .
JOPHIL ****
For me, wisdom emerged AFTER the breakup. It is impossible to "manage" these women at the time ..they are GoldMedal wackjobs.
Lesson #1 . BPD women are not fit for an LTR. EVER !
Lesson #2 . Bail at the FIRST display of significant disrespct. The first sign of disrespect is an indication that you have entered upon the downward spiral.
You now are in HER frame unless you walk away
Lessom #3 . You cannot talk to, or negotiate with a Pers Disordered women.
These women thrive on creating conflict and upset, covertly . The roller coaster is their playground. Life to them, feels natural when it is turmoil. Equilibrium seems to create an anxiety state.
Lesson #4 . IT is not possible (or wise ) for YOU to try to rehabilitate a Pers Disordered women.
These are the women who make Therapists jump from tall buildings.
Lesson #5 . If you feel endlessly "hungry" in a relationship ,if you feel anxious and uncertain, if you feel more unstable and unsure over time, then you are with a Pers Disordered women. Why ? because they never contribute or play their part.Their mental energy goes into "mindfvcking" you. They just take and expect you to give more and more while you get less and less.
**** Be aware and vigilant, men - approx 3% of the female population is seriously wacko and a large percenage is sub-clinical . I have had about 25 some odd LTRs and FORTUNATELY only one with a Pers Dis.woman, and that was enough for me.
They are out there - lurking in wait.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Hey Metro - 3 wackos -wow. You sure got more that your share.Metro3pilot said:looking back I have been involved with at least 3 .....
wow ....... I remember they all were showing red flags at the beginning .... I either ignored them or rationalyzed them .....
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.