"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I haven't so much as kissed a girl in 4 months

Eternal_water

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I have no potential targets to call up atm so I have to get someone brand new.

Given I have a job in a club has anyone got any chat up routes I could try out?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I work in 1 of the 3 cloakrooms, take peoples stuff when they arrive and give it back as they go
 

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I believe that simple, even lame openers are best. This is because you are testing the waters to see if she WANTS to talk to you. Sometimes too clever or funny or interesting an opener can MASK her low interest because you are entertaining her.

Consider the context. People are LEAVING a CLUB. I'd ask every girl...

"Did you have a good night?"

Or

"Did you have fun tonight?"

Most will give one word answers. That's ok. But a few will try to continue the conversation with you. Maybe follow up with "Are you a good dancer?" (Chicks like to talk about dance even if they suck at it lol.)

Fluff talk a bit and try for a number. "I gotta get back to work, but we should talk sometime. What's your number?"

The point I want to drive home is you don't need a fancy script. If she finds you attractive and wants to talk to you, you can talk about anything. Test the waters, and then proceed.
 

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If you work at a club, doesn't matter what you do, unless it's in the men's bathroom handing out paper towels, chicks will want to bang you. Especially the insecure, young chicks. Make it happen, you don't need to much game, the club is your game. Like Mike said above, say something simple, smile...all you might have to do is be friendly.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Eternal_water said:
That on the other hand isn't so helpful
Lets be real, cold approaching is useless and a waste of time these days. Girls will trust you more if youre in their social circle and it be easier to meet them. Become friends with guys that know a lot of girls or have connections.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
Lets be real, cold approaching is useless and a waste of time these days. Girls will trust you more if youre in their social circle and it be easier to meet them. Become friends with guys that know a lot of girls or have connections.
I know what you are saying, but it's not exactly the same as a random guy visiting the club doing an approach.

The idea is for the OP to be friendly and chat up the girls as they approach to get their coats or drop them off (or both ideally). As a staff member, he's considered "safe" and possibly has some "status." He gets a free pass to flirt with girls because staff is supposed to be friendly (at a good club lol).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Chat the piss out of them on the way out when they're tipsy. Make it known when your shift ends. I'm not saying it's foolproof, but you gotta experiment and see where it takes you. Also, have a place in mind to go to in case one, two, three of them say yes.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
Lets be real, cold approaching is useless and a waste of time these days. Girls will trust you more if youre in their social circle and it be easier to meet them. Become friends with guys that know a lot of girls or have connections.
Why would cold approaching be useless? That's pretty much the dumbest sentence I've read this month. Only someone who never had the balls to try it would say that.

So what you are saying is its more effective to find new social circles to have a shot at a few girls, instead of just hooking up with tons of random girls outside/at your workplace?

A girl who is drunk doesn't think as much of the social rules around her, instead she goes more with natural impulses. If you play your cards right and try to talk to as many girls as possible and getting as many numbers as possible, you will be flooded in poontang.
 
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