"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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"I have a boyfriend"

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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beotch shield on maximum:

Her: I have a boyfriend.

Me: You probably snore and can't cook, anyway..

Then watch her go from beotch to zero in 0.5 seconds.
 

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Her: I have a boyfriend.

Wow, even ugly girls have boyfriends these days.

LOL
 

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wow, a lot of new material here. I usually go with a "cool, give me a call when you dump him."
 

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Originally posted by Spike_the_cowboy
Her: I have a boyfriend.

Me: Would you like a manfriend instead?

:p
haha thats good, im gonna try it :p
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I like to use the, "me too" but in a different variation. I exaggerate all my words and say in a Barbie-esque style:

OH MY GOD! I like totally like have one too! That is totally cool! like totally!

They start cracking up like a ... um ... firecracker.
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I don't really do the "would you like a man friend" or anything that insults their BF. Something like "when you dump him call me" is cool.
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Some total *****es might just say " I have a BF" the first second you meet for some reason. Oh yeah, they're *****es. Then I just go, "You mean the guy I ****ed last night?" hahahahahha. totally self degratory (sp?), but it's funny as hell. It's not like I'm ever meeting them again.
 

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^^ you said what I was gonna post. awesome stuff. I've had girls who told me straight upfront they had a BF, who I found out later were crazy about me from when we first met so a lot of girls are just being honest with you when they say "I have a BF."
 

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The words to an old rap song go like this:

"What ya man got to do wit me?, I'm not tryin hear that SEE?"

This is a good repsonse to that.
 

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I got this one from a recent Papi Jack post.

When date closing, number closing etc., and she comes with "I have a boyfriend"

You Respond: Oh you're offering me his number also? Cool!
Or: Oh and you're offering to bring him too wow that's a two for one deal. Great!

She'll either roll on the floor laughing or will be floored.
You will either walk away with a successful close or walk away with your self-respect intact.

Don't ever let her have the last word on that type of rejection.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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How's this-a liitle like the rest.

I have a boyfriend



OMG, a boyfriend??!! Just tell me hes not underaged!!
 

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HER: I have a BF
YOU: Thats good, but im not interested in being your BF, im interested in you/getting to know you

Simple yet very effective if executed assertive.
 

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Originally posted by AFK Protector
This thread is pointless. Regardless whether or not she has a bf, it means she is NOT INTERESTED IN YOU. So back the fvck off and find a nother girl. Seriously, all this does is show that you're one desperate mothafvcka who can't cut his losses and move on. BOOO :down:
Really?
Some girls actually have this "i have a BF" response on autopilot from guys trying to PU them. Just because theyre INITIALLY not interested doesnt mean you dont have a chance.

It DOESNT show youre desperate if you persist with some class and know-how. THat shows that youre a man WORTHY of ****ing since you pass her little autoresponse defensive test, she is shocked surprised , "who is this man?" intrigued if you will.

Besides, what does it matter if she is not interested, youre interested in her thats ALL that matters.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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um...not really. Interest has gotta be there. If it isn't you have nothing to build upon. Now, if you were initially interested in someone, I'm sure you wouldn't say "oh I have a gf." You'd only use that on fat chicks.

If not, hey whatever floats ur boat, but you're gonna look kinda dumb.
 

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She might be interested, but she's not sure, uncertain, maybe you've made the right move too early, or youre escalating too fast, she gets scared and throws that out, you see it as disinterest and disqualify yourself for a chick you could have ****ed that night. Way to go GI-Joe.

The intent is to make you disinterested, maybe she is telling the truth, maybe she isnt really interested, maybe she's scared, either way not to TRY to turn that around if you really want the chick is IMHO stupid.

Girls WANT to be taken, they want that romantic hero to dominate them and sweep them off their feet, to back down and cut your losses like a quitting loser aint gonna accomplish anything. Watch any hollywood production and theres usually the chick, throwing massive ****tests like this at the seducer, but he persists, he has the "right answers", he knows she's full off **** and wants him but is just testing him to see.. is his genes worth reproducing with?

Why would a girl be interested in reproducing with a male who doesnt think he stands a chance at first sign of uncertainty? From a biological standpoint youre killing yourself by not persisting.


BTW Why the **** would I care if I look dumb? I KNOW I am not dumb, thats all that matters. Try that "dontgivea****" attitude when you approach women and see them tremble and fall at your feet.
 

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Originally posted by AFK Protector
This thread is pointless. Regardless whether or not she has a bf, it means she is NOT INTERESTED IN YOU. So back the fvck off and find a nother girl. Seriously, all this does is show that you're one desperate mothafvcka who can't cut his losses and move on. BOOO :down:
I agree for the most. Most of the posts in this thread are theoretical BS that won't work. If she brings up her BF when you attempt a number close next her. If she brings up her BF the first time you talk to her next her, in either situation she'll chase you. Both of you know she has a BF so it will be up to her to make the first move, after all she has nothing to lose by chasing you because she already has a BF.
 

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Originally posted by AFK Protector
um...not really. Interest has gotta be there. If it isn't you have nothing to build upon. Now, if you were initially interested in someone, I'm sure you wouldn't say "oh I have a gf." You'd only use that on fat chicks.

If not, hey whatever floats ur boat, but you're gonna look kinda dumb.
um no.
 

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Originally posted by mike123
Really?
Some girls actually have this "i have a BF" response on autopilot from guys trying to PU them. Just because theyre INITIALLY not interested doesnt mean you dont have a chance.

It DOESNT show youre desperate if you persist with some class and know-how. THat shows that youre a man WORTHY of ****ing since you pass her little autoresponse defensive test, she is shocked surprised , "who is this man?" intrigued if you will.

Besides, what does it matter if she is not interested, youre interested in her thats ALL that matters.
yeah I think you're right man. Some girls are like that. I just choose not to bother with them.

but like i said, whatever floats your boat mate :up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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