Kev07
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She probably hates you for not talking to her, you fail.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I Fuking Hate This Girl!!
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Plec07 said:
i figured it out not long ago that i FUKING BLEW MY CHANCE with her!!PLEC thx for that info man.. i wont make the same mistake twice when a girl like that show me the same kind of interests..
thx all you guys for helping me out!! thx you.
i saw the girl i was talking about this week n i decided to just fuking ask her out.. fuk the asking her name n shiet.. well guess what happen.. I GOT FUKING OWN!!!
Me:hey.. how was your christmas..? Her:it was great.. how was yours..? Me:i need to find my niece a XMAS gift.. but i dunno what to get her..Her:hmm lets see.. if i was a 10 yr old what would i want..? Me:what are you doing this weekend..? Her:nothing.. probably going out.. Me:why dont you come with me to help me find a gift for my niece.. Herhh.. i can't.. my boyfriend will get mad.. Meh.. come on.. Her:sry.. i can't..
now i know not to stress about her no more.. wether i see her or not.. im happy for her..
cuz back den i would stress about her.. that she thinks about me n shiet.. afrading that she'd be stressing like crazy over me cuz the way she stares n smiles..
i think she got a boyfriend before xmas.. because before before xmas.. she was sending me signs that girls that don't have boyfriends would show.. i guess she couldnt wait any longer n decided to find a different guy.. I waited TOO FUKING LONG I SUPPOSED..
i feel so relieved now.. :yes:
Me:hey.. how was your christmas..? Her:it was great.. how was yours..? Me:i need to find my niece a XMAS gift.. but i dunno what to get her..Her:hmm lets see.. if i was a 10 yr old what would i want..? Me:what are you doing this weekend..? Her:nothing.. probably going out.. Me:why dont you come with me to help me find a gift for my niece.. Her
hh.. i can't.. my boyfriend will get mad.. Meh.. come on.. Her:sry.. i can't..now i know not to stress about her no more.. wether i see her or not.. im happy for her..
cuz back den i would stress about her.. that she thinks about me n shiet.. afrading that she'd be stressing like crazy over me cuz the way she stares n smiles..
i think she got a boyfriend before xmas.. because before before xmas.. she was sending me signs that girls that don't have boyfriends would show.. i guess she couldnt wait any longer n decided to find a different guy.. I waited TOO FUKING LONG I SUPPOSED..
i feel so relieved now.. :yes:
GaryUranga
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this is so odd
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
GaryUranga
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Im talking about how you went berserk over a chick smiling at you
Don't listen to the negative nancies that are going to critique what you did. Good move. You failed. Next time create some rapport, kino, actually attract her before going in for the kill, but it's better than sitting on the sidelines like 96% of other guys would've done.
Guys, help him don't flame him. Can't you see he needs it?
@Sozz: Read the DJ Bible man. Read everything by pook... 10 times. Weapons of Mass Seductions. Read it. 11 times.
You are overalalyzing WAAAY too much. Just chill. You shouldn't 'like' her if you have never talked to her. Game more than one girl at a time. Game 12 girls. Don't fanasize about any of them, if you do, make it all of them.
It was a smile. She was being nice, not fvcking with your head. You were just trying to get excuses so you didn't have to go through with it, or worse, actually suceed.
Good work for work for asking her out though. Great start. Fantastic courage. Keep us updated.
PS: Please use decent grammer.
@Sozz: Read the DJ Bible man. Read everything by pook... 10 times. Weapons of Mass Seductions. Read it. 11 times.
You are overalalyzing WAAAY too much. Just chill. You shouldn't 'like' her if you have never talked to her. Game more than one girl at a time. Game 12 girls. Don't fanasize about any of them, if you do, make it all of them.
It was a smile. She was being nice, not fvcking with your head. You were just trying to get excuses so you didn't have to go through with it, or worse, actually suceed.
Good work for work for asking her out though. Great start. Fantastic courage. Keep us updated.
PS: Please use decent grammer.
Sup guys, i need you guys opinion on this girl..
She's been working at my job a couple months now.. and i think she'll be working there for awhile so there's really no need to rush if you know what i mean.. She starts trying to find where i am in the morning.. Or maybe i'm just being paranoid, but i noticed her looking at me while i'm sitting on a bench everytime i gotta go to work..
Well, currently she's been dressing mad hot!! one time she sees me walking toward her, she turn with her face facing me and stick her ass out with them shortass tight SHORTS!!! GITDAMN but i took the door nearby and exited out and took the outside way..
Everytime i'm sitting on a bench.. she'd walk by me knowing full well i'm sitting on that bench and pulls down her shirt or fix her clothe..
I've been doing nothing but avoid her.. not that i'm doing it in purpose but w/e.. now i think she's trying to avoid me too..
like i'll be walking from point A to point B and she's at point B walking straight to point A..
As i'm walking from A to B, i see her from B walking A.. I feel like stopping between point A and B and take a break to sit on a bench..
And as i got on the bench chilling.. i see her walking to the side to see where i'm sitting or some **** because i caught her staring..
she could just keep walking from B to A but she decided to walk on the outside of B to A after she saw me stop n walk to the bench to chill..
I think she got a boyfriend because i saw her and this white boy walking and he pushed her in a flirty way and she liked it too..
The reason i saw her at the mall because as i'm talking to my buddies and she saw me so she took the path that she knows i will see her...
What should i do..? MOVE IN or start with a hi or what..?
She's been working at my job a couple months now.. and i think she'll be working there for awhile so there's really no need to rush if you know what i mean.. She starts trying to find where i am in the morning.. Or maybe i'm just being paranoid, but i noticed her looking at me while i'm sitting on a bench everytime i gotta go to work..
Well, currently she's been dressing mad hot!! one time she sees me walking toward her, she turn with her face facing me and stick her ass out with them shortass tight SHORTS!!! GITDAMN but i took the door nearby and exited out and took the outside way..
Everytime i'm sitting on a bench.. she'd walk by me knowing full well i'm sitting on that bench and pulls down her shirt or fix her clothe..
I've been doing nothing but avoid her.. not that i'm doing it in purpose but w/e.. now i think she's trying to avoid me too..
like i'll be walking from point A to point B and she's at point B walking straight to point A..
As i'm walking from A to B, i see her from B walking A.. I feel like stopping between point A and B and take a break to sit on a bench..
And as i got on the bench chilling.. i see her walking to the side to see where i'm sitting or some **** because i caught her staring..
she could just keep walking from B to A but she decided to walk on the outside of B to A after she saw me stop n walk to the bench to chill..
I think she got a boyfriend because i saw her and this white boy walking and he pushed her in a flirty way and she liked it too..
The reason i saw her at the mall because as i'm talking to my buddies and she saw me so she took the path that she knows i will see her...
What should i do..? MOVE IN or start with a hi or what..?
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
DonAlan456
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just be like hey
and from there ask her somewhere
but dont be like um... wanna go out with me sometime
Think of something fun that you want to do and bring it up naturally
for example lets say you like tennis
You: Can you believe how amazing roger federer is?
Her: Whos he? I dont really follow tennis.
You: Really? do you play?
Her: Kinda i tried once, i sucked at it
You: ur missing out...ill tell u what, i was plannin on playin anyways, so on sunday ill teach you how and mb if ur lucky.... after i teach u to be awesome at tennis ill let u suck at something else..
and from there ask her somewhere
but dont be like um... wanna go out with me sometime
Think of something fun that you want to do and bring it up naturally
for example lets say you like tennis
You: Can you believe how amazing roger federer is?
Her: Whos he? I dont really follow tennis.
You: Really? do you play?
Her: Kinda i tried once, i sucked at it
You: ur missing out...ill tell u what, i was plannin on playin anyways, so on sunday ill teach you how and mb if ur lucky.... after i teach u to be awesome at tennis ill let u suck at something else..
DonAlan456
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its just a rough idea..
im sure ull come up w something better
im sure ull come up w something better
bro i would seriously recommend you start trying to gain more rapport, i like how your watching details of her movements, but don't sit there like a dork, attack your target in the sense, that you need to talk to her more, as an example...
i myself when i see a girl smiling at me from across a room at lunch, clubs, even on the street i walk up to her and begin a conversation. if you just sit there and say "damn she's fixing her clothes" "Damn she's avoiding me" it wont help to improve any rapport whatsoever, of course theres tons of girls that could smile at you and have a b/f, thats why you GO AND TALK to her to gain information and see if she has any b/f's. i never ask do you have any b/f's? because it seems like a awkward question.... but i always try to ask in a ****+funny way.. as an example.... i'm just making up out of the blue as we speak "you have a great personality i bet your boyfriend if crazy about you?"
and of course she will smile and say "no" or "Yes".. and i'm the type of guy that once they say yes i just say well its great meeting you i hope we can be friends if nothing else (i think i read that line in a book i read).
but anyway bro my main point is, you need to clarify on what level she is.. if she's single or dating.. or interested in you.. if you think she's giving you interest indications then go for it bud and talk to her.. what have you to lose? lol a rejection?
but your doing good in watching her details of movements like i said before. and taking note of what she wears is great.
i myself when i see a girl smiling at me from across a room at lunch, clubs, even on the street i walk up to her and begin a conversation. if you just sit there and say "damn she's fixing her clothes" "Damn she's avoiding me" it wont help to improve any rapport whatsoever, of course theres tons of girls that could smile at you and have a b/f, thats why you GO AND TALK to her to gain information and see if she has any b/f's. i never ask do you have any b/f's? because it seems like a awkward question.... but i always try to ask in a ****+funny way.. as an example.... i'm just making up out of the blue as we speak "you have a great personality i bet your boyfriend if crazy about you?"
and of course she will smile and say "no" or "Yes".. and i'm the type of guy that once they say yes i just say well its great meeting you i hope we can be friends if nothing else (i think i read that line in a book i read).
but anyway bro my main point is, you need to clarify on what level she is.. if she's single or dating.. or interested in you.. if you think she's giving you interest indications then go for it bud and talk to her.. what have you to lose? lol a rejection?
but your doing good in watching her details of movements like i said before. and taking note of what she wears is great.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.