"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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i dont understand... i ask girl out on date, but she says she is kinda taken?

cguy2004

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why would she say kinda taken, and not taken. am i suppose to make a move? i mean after all, i did ask her on a date...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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PapiChulo

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rejection, playing hard to get, wants to see what you are gonna do.

I personally dont buy any of this "taken" bull****, so are the married chicks that cheat say.
 

War Against Betaism

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She's trying to reject you, but hesitated by adding "kinda" to soften the blow. I wouldn't say you have no chance, but you're fighting an uphill battle here if you do continue to pursue.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
She's trying to reject you, but hesitated by adding "kinda" to soften the blow. I wouldn't say you have no chance, but you're fighting an uphill battle here if you do continue to pursue.
This is it ^^.

Any further attempt by you to date her is likely to fail. Her "kinda taken" statement is not a 'test' or a ploy to have you chase her or some other beta fantasy from the SS loonie fringe , it is 'womanspeek' for "No thanks ."
 
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Kinda taken - kinda pregnant - same BS.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PapiChulo

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Kinda busy- kinda not looking for anyone - kinda lesbian, he he

is she married or engaged?
 
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