"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I don't even know what to say when they start conversations
- Thread starter RichardTheFrog
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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user43770
Guest
Eh, I don't get agitated or anything. I've never felt the need to ignore anyone except my exes. And I'm not even good at that lol
logicallefty
Moderator
Try it with someone who is not a mod
Here is what it should look like
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user43770
Guest
I recommended How to Win Friends and Influence People to him a while back. He said that he had already read it, it sucked, and that he isn't looking to make friends.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
RichardTheFrog
Banned
Because I don't want male friends?
I am 100% sure you are not qualified to diagnose anything and probably barely even know what you are talking about.
Even talking to YOU for 3 seconds, I can already tell I wouldn't want to be your friend. Why would I be stupid enough to think that other guys are on my side? That's not how the world works, little boy.
logicallefty
Moderator
@LARaiders85 @RichardTheFrog Come on fellas, please don't start bickering in a thread where I JUST clarified how to use the ignore button. Show your brother mod Lefty some respect will yas'? 
RichardTheFrog
Banned
I was insulted. Then I defended myself.@LARaiders85 @RichardTheFrog Come on fellas, please don't start bickering in a thread where I JUST clarified how to use the ignore button. Show your brother mod Lefty some respect will yas'?
I don't even know who that loser is.
RichardTheFrog
Banned
So put me on ignore and don't respond to me. You're going to reply to my thread to insult me, then whine like a baby.
I'm already having to censor myself from telling you what I really think so I don't get kicked off.
logicallefty
Moderator
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Atom Smasher
Master Don Juan
Richard, one reason you are struggling with this is that you are very mechanical in your thought processes. You seem to look for immediate, pragmatic value or payoff in a given interaction, rather than using these interactions to hone your social skills. Your problem is not looks, but rather you are telegraphing your mechanical way of viewing others.
Think of yourself as a precision blade, and you can sharpen yourself and hone your craft (the craft of smooth social interaction) by engaging in small-talk. The "payoff" has little to do with individual interactions but everything to do with turning yourself into a man who can socialize smoothly over time.
What precisely did this woman at the store say?
Think of yourself as a precision blade, and you can sharpen yourself and hone your craft (the craft of smooth social interaction) by engaging in small-talk. The "payoff" has little to do with individual interactions but everything to do with turning yourself into a man who can socialize smoothly over time.
What precisely did this woman at the store say?
hockeyfreak79
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It's unfortunate that you think this way because it is far from the truth. I met probably one of my best friends to this day after my divorce. He's redpill/game aware as you can get but has ZERO awareness what RP is or even SS for that matter. Natural through trial and error etc, pretty much what I like to call it.
So anyway he's extremely social, confident guy and would introduce me to woman all the time. He'd even be out with some random chick and say hey meet me at xyz we'll watch some hockey. At first I thought it was weird cause he'd be on a date but man that shït was fun. There were even times were he would tell me hey man if your interested in so & so go for it.
Hands down the best wingman I've had no doubt and will be a life long friend of mine. And NO we never tag teamed a chick, but there was 1 chick that asked us but hell NO not interested.
RichardTheFrog
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So only reason he's your friend is because he can do something for you.
hockeyfreak79
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No we probably became friends because we both shared similar interests in hobbies/things etc.
Murk
Master Don Juan
Compliments help, “yeah I really like this song who is it by? Oh ok I usually like XYZ kind of music. That’s a cute jacket you have on, so where are you off to today?”
It’s just about being confident and relaxed, one day a switch flicked inside me and I came super outgoing, I’d had enough of overthinking and living inside my head. When that switch flicks it never goes back off.
It’s just about being confident and relaxed, one day a switch flicked inside me and I came super outgoing, I’d had enough of overthinking and living inside my head. When that switch flicks it never goes back off.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.