"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I didn't disclose having a child on the first date, but seems like I should say something now. Thoughts?

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I think linearly, so here it goes. I'm 36 years old, divorced with a two year old.

1. Went out with a 26 year old blonde, incredible tits a couple weeks ago, two dates total, no sex. Went to set up third date, which she initially agreed. Day before date sends a text saying that she was looking for something serious and did not want to pursue the relationship farther because I have a child (at least she was direct and honest).

2. Then, meet an Asian girl, 33 years old, single, no children, finishing up her law degree. Has high interest in me. Go out grab coffee and walk around town. Date ends with me kissing her in front of her high rise apartment. She playfully grabs my ass and d*ck, but that's as far as she'd let escalate.

3. I was a little snake bit from how the blonde had ended it bc of me having a child. And so although we hung out for several hours yesterday and texted before, I never disclosed that I had a child. She never asked. Did tell her I was divorced. At this point, and as much as we've talked, it seems like I should have probably brought it up.

4. When, how should I bring this up? Don't want to look like I am hiding something as she seems like she could potentially be a good LTR option. Also, don't want to get dropped for having a child...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wouldn't mention anything unless the child lives with you on a regular basis

Eventually it will come up but hopefully she will be too far into her feelings to care

Same goes for divorce, you wanna keep things light and in the moment, heavy life-**** should be avoided imo
 

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I’m surprised these women haven’t asked you about kids and if you’ve been married within the first 10 mins of talking to you. They usually go down the list and ask your job, if you have kids, have you ever been married and “what do you do for fun”.lol
 

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I’m surprised these women haven’t asked you about kids and if you’ve been married within the first 10 mins of talking to you. They usually go down the list and ask your job, if you have kids, have you ever been married and “what do you do for fun”.lol
People are dating initially for fun, not to get married. So why does kids or marriage status even matter for 3-6 month?
 

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People are dating initially for fun, not to get married. So why does kids or marriage status even matter for 3-6 month?
You’d have to ask women why that’s so important cause they’re the ones asking.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Lie to them. The singles have a points rating system that deducts for marriages and kids.
I don’t have to lie as I’ve never been married and don’t have kids. That’s usually followed with a look of confusion and then they ask why. I tell them because I won’t marry just anyone and I know how to use a condom lol
 

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I don’t have to lie as I’ve never been married and don’t have kids. That’s usually followed with a look of confusion and then they ask why. I tell them because I won’t marry just anyone and I know how to use a condom lol
Thats a good lie for the men whove been married and have a kid or two. You see if the females are dating for fun and hookups it really doesnt matter.
 

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Not sure about lying, I mean, MAYBE it could be viewed as mysterious. I would rather bat off the question with a joke....

Do you have any kids? Yeah twelve!
Have you been married? What happens in Vegas... ;-)

And then I'd quickly change the subject. Those are lame examples but you get the idea
 

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Not sure about lying, I mean, MAYBE it could be viewed as mysterious. I would rather bat off the question with a joke....

Do you have any kids? Yeah twelve!
Have you been married? What happens in Vegas... ;-)

And then I'd quickly change the subject. Those are lame examples but you get the idea
If your gonna bone her 3-6 times and bounce does it really matter?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Possibly a long term with this one. I'm generally pretty straight forward guy. I have a damn car seat in my car that's a pain in the ass to get out.

I generally try to play things straight up.
 

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Possibly a long term with this one. I'm generally pretty straight forward guy. I have a damn car seat in my car that's a pain in the ass to get out.

I generally try to play things straight up.
It hurts us. They are VERY manipulative. You wouldnt go revealing information to other males who you discover to be self serving and manipulative.
 

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yeah, it just seems inevitable that this will come out. Id have to have an excuse for not disclosing it. And not looking like a deceiver/liar.
 

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yeah, it just seems inevitable that this will come out. Id have to have an excuse for not disclosing it. And not looking like a deceiver/liar.
If your doing FWB for a few months doesnt have to come out. After 3-6 months if you wanted to let her push further and somehow it was revealed just say she never asked. And you dont go spreading your personal business to just anyone.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I think linearly, so here it goes. I'm 36 years old, divorced with a two year old.

1. Went out with a 26 year old blonde, incredible tits a couple weeks ago, two dates total, no sex. Went to set up third date, which she initially agreed. Day before date sends a text saying that she was looking for something serious and did not want to pursue the relationship farther because I have a child (at least she was direct and honest).

2. Then, meet an Asian girl, 33 years old, single, no children, finishing up her law degree. Has high interest in me. Go out grab coffee and walk around town. Date ends with me kissing her in front of her high rise apartment. She playfully grabs my ass and d*ck, but that's as far as she'd let escalate.

3. I was a little snake bit from how the blonde had ended it bc of me having a child. And so although we hung out for several hours yesterday and texted before, I never disclosed that I had a child. She never asked. Did tell her I was divorced. At this point, and as much as we've talked, it seems like I should have probably brought it up.

4. When, how should I bring this up? Don't want to look like I am hiding something as she seems like she could potentially be a good LTR option. Also, don't want to get dropped for having a child...
Tell her, after sex.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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