"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I CHALLENGE all of you to take pics and post them

REd-xL

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Why the hell not?
http://hyperseduction.50g.com

I'm in Week 8 right now.

Rx

Yeah, I know, there's a couple gay poses in there. Whatever, I look damn good for 6'2" 200 lbs.
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How do you expect to catch some fish if you don't toss out your lure? -Jerome

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The first picture of me in this thread has changed (I think I actually tried to delete it I don't know how the new photo got there) in any case as it looks silly considering I'm going on about how big and muscly I am and as I can neither edit the original post (because its 2,882 hours since I posted it or something) and as I can no longer edit the hotornot source (because I can no longer remember the handle or email address for that pic) I will have to post a new picture of me showing of my muscles (you have to use your imagination a bit though and imagine me with a lower body fat percentage - a lot easier than me dieting to loose it).

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?emid=KMOSNZK

By the way penkitten the link to your photo doesn't work so we still don't know what you look like.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This kind of brings up a funny topic, but true.

Who takes your pics? Now that I broke up with my gf, I'd feel kind of funny asking my buddy to take a picture of me shirtless.

So I guess I don't have any of me shirtless right now (or recent ones!)
 

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btw thats not really me I just posted it for sh*ts and giggles
 

NiceGuysFinishLast

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true player for real, almost a nine on hotornot :) :

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=NQNMRYB&key=BVN

I'm 6'2", 156lbs. I work my upper body twice a week, have been for about a month and half now, but i've only gained a total of 2lbs. I'm taking creatine and whey, but alas, doesn't seem to be working. My weight will fluctuate to 160 after creatine, but two days later i'm back in the 155ish zone. I haven't been counting calories or protein, but i think that's what it's going to come down to. I am eating healthier, but doesn't seem like i'm eating more. Thoughts? I think i'll post this same thing as a normal thread in H&F...
 

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eat more
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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hmmm not bad penkitten. Could lose the sunglasses and maybe a bit of your butt otherwise not too shabby.

:D
 

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Ne one mind if I copy this thread in General Discussion?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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