"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I can talk to any girl except her...

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People say I intend to talk to much
Then let others speak. I'll give you a link to one of my articles. - http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91198

I sometimes take control of conversation it depends if I'm interested or not.
Make sure the conversation fits with everyone, see above.

and I can make long conversation with my friends but I find it difficult with the ladies.
Practice. Talk to girls, ask them questions and listen. See the article for ways to pick up on what they are actually talking about for potential conversation topics to lead into, or to start up with other girls.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Alright man thanks alot i'll update tomorow.
 

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Update 2 - alright som I'm heading torwards her nervous as ever but trying to do it her Boyfriend shoew up beside her ( Now whats the luck of that) so I walk along and don't see her for the rest of the day. I can't get frigging break lol.
 

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Originally posted by Dustin
Update 2 - alright som I'm heading torwards her nervous as ever but trying to do it her Boyfriend shoew up beside her ( Now whats the luck of that) so I walk along and don't see her for the rest of the day. I can't get frigging break lol.
Try using my advice on different girls, work up experience (I mean months). You wont' get anywhere like this.

- I cleared about 30 messages out of sent items, so my inbox should be good. Send that pm.
 

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lol I forget what it was.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alright so I had a decent convo with her tonight...on the internet frig I feel like an idiot but needless to say some of my older friends are gonan be chilling with me tomorow and they told me they'll see what they can do to get'em to chill with me also... so I think I'm making a dcent move.
 

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Man, I know a chick just like her.
And the thing is, she's smart. I called her pythagoris the other day.
Never had I met a girl smarter than me in math. And she's got a hot body, doesn't act too slutty.
She's overall, a great catch. They do exist.

So maybe you know this.

Think about it logically. There's got to be something wrong with her. Try and find out.
 

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lol well I know a deep dark secret about her BF but I don't wanna get anyone pissed off.
 
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