She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
LoveAfter2009 said:Nah, I only respond in detail to detailed posts is because, in respect, for a lack of a better. If someone can take the time to write a decently long post for me, I can take the time to respond in a similar manner (unless the post is all hate). Likewise in person, I can debate with people as long as their are good points being made from either party, but if I sense that the conversation is going nowhere, I end it on the spot. Nothing is planned. Don't know how I can stress this enough.
I will keep you posted.
Oh and did I mention I love writing?
Mid-40's dude.. are you stupid?Mauser96 said:I think you are moving wayyy too fast here. Only 5 years to build attraction?
I'd give it a little longer. Wait until you both are in your mid-40's, then make your move.
Haaa...Mauser96 said:I think you are moving wayyy too fast here. Only 5 years to build attraction?
I'd give it a little longer. Wait until you both are in your mid-40's, then make your move.
Oh no. Oh no no no no no. Oh no. Oh god, no.LoveAfter2009 said:If I am not wrong, she basically waited for me all these years. Sad statuses, sad songs, cutting off guys, being depressed, giving me unbroken eye contact, staring at me, going out of her way to get my attention, her friends negging her for "liking someone but not talking to them" (it was a joke her sister and girl bff pulled on her a lot last year through photos, fb etc).
Now, if I correct in all this, awesome. I just have to take things slowly and I'll have her in my arms before this forum sees summer time.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
And here is where the theory falls to the ground.If I am not wrong
50% chance she's been a worthless sl*t.Now here are some interesting things I found out through mutual friends:
-Around 2010/2011, she was in a relationship (or something) with a guy. It was a bad relationship. She was apparently always crying. This is around the same time she rejected my facebook request. Apparently, she ended the relationship around late 2010, early 2011. THE SAME time she started all the facebook things like commenting after me, adding my friends etc.
-Since 2012, she has been posting SAD LOVE songs on facebook. One particular song is titled "My Heart Belongs to You" and it's main lyrics are
"All I hear is raindrops; I can't make this tears stop, you left my world so cold.
You were my best friend as far as I could see.
But then something changed when you fell for me.
Now I am the one who is pain, since I turned you away.
But now you moved on. I know I made you wait too long. I had my chance but now it's gone.
But I am willing to, make a go at me and you; cause I can't live my life without you".
Another one says things like "Give me one more chance. I never understood you."
Another one says things like "Why do you keep coming in and out of my life? Why do you always walk away? What are you afraid of? Aren't you looking for the same thing I am looking for? Don't you get the butterflies in your stomach too when you see me? So why do you walk in and out of my life? Let's take our time baby".
From mutual friends, I have learned she has NOT dated since 2011. She is usually depressed over "someone". She keeps cutting her social circle, and has been making it smaller and smaller to the point where she hangs out with her sisters and 3 girls only now. She has removed most of the guys from her facebook; deleted compliments from guys from photos, and now she deactivated her facebook.
I also noticed something. Everytime I would change my profile picture, she would change it too. If I would change it back to an older picture, she would change hers back to an older picture as well. So she's looking at my profile actively? (Well now her's has been deactivated for several months; afterall, fb does create stupid feelings).
I am planning to talk to her today. In 10ish hours, I am most likely going to be standing with her face to face, and talking to her.
MY QUESTIONS:
What THE **** happened over the years? Did she start liking me for some reason? Is it because I ignored her? I literally went cold after that day she rejected my fb request. Or was it because she broke up with that chump; she came for me whereas before she felt she couldn't?
HOW DO I START A CONVERSATION? Since we have seen each other so many times, especially at college now as well, HOW DO I OPEN with her? TOMORROW. In 12 hours.
Help me out friends. I need it. A teacher is on his knees asking for help. I am called an Alpha by many, yet Wifey makes me freeze. Advise me. Be real. Be strict. I need this.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I loved the part where he said " I'll accept anything no matter how much you hit me" and many posters like you or mrwright told the truth and he was feeling offended because " we do not know him " or " that we are made out of negativity".Another archeology project?
Who keeps digging up dead threads from troll OPs?
This was a classic thread though.
I wonder if "wifey" ever came out of the public restroom she was hiding in?I'm sure he's going to get the chick eventually but his puppy dog like behavior won't let this relationship to hold.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.