My current girlfriend has been my best friend for over a year. It's probably the best relationship i've ever had. This proves that there is hope to start a relationship with a friend, but i still don't recommend it. Any thoughts, opinions, or questions?
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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
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I am an exception to the rule
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Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
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The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
wcknightjr
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Everyone likes a story with a good ending (at least to this point), so why don't ya stop gloating and tell yours.
AC/DC
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Indeed, those are by far the best relationships, but can also be the most hurtful ones if they happen to end.
Remember, the streets are real cold... and everyone ends up there at one point in their life or another. If that relationship ends, it'll be really difficult to overcome. Trust me, I know.
Remember, the streets are real cold... and everyone ends up there at one point in their life or another. If that relationship ends, it'll be really difficult to overcome. Trust me, I know.
DJBen
Master Don Juan
No it doesnt.
You can still do it that way. But in my experience, it doesnt work out too good. All the women I've been in a relationship with were snapped up pretty fast. Within the space of about 2-4 weeks with them wanting exclusivity[if thats a word. if not, it is now
.All the girls I'm 'friends' with... I could screw 2 of them. The rest I hardly talk to.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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I like the benefits of this so far. It's like we can skip all of the bullsht w/dating and taking things really slow for a while. we already know eachother good enough for it to be comfortable. At first i think girls think it'd be weird kissing their best friend. I think you should gradually take the friends thing to the next level.
Bring it up for a while and see what she says. If she denies it then act like you're not hurt. But then start ignoring her, but not to make it seem on purpose. She'll catch on that you're avoiding her and will be hurt. Most girls will see drama and run to it and try to make things better.(depending on how good of friends you are) Anyway kinda play hard to get. The trick is convincing her that she wants you. I dont know, this all might sound confusing right now but its 4:00 am, i just had a football game(we won our senior night!), and i need some sleep. Def happy with the whole best friend/girl friend thing.
PS- Anyone seen 'Lorenzo' around? I'm sure he'd like to know i'm posting again.
Bring it up for a while and see what she says. If she denies it then act like you're not hurt. But then start ignoring her, but not to make it seem on purpose. She'll catch on that you're avoiding her and will be hurt. Most girls will see drama and run to it and try to make things better.(depending on how good of friends you are) Anyway kinda play hard to get. The trick is convincing her that she wants you. I dont know, this all might sound confusing right now but its 4:00 am, i just had a football game(we won our senior night!), and i need some sleep. Def happy with the whole best friend/girl friend thing.
PS- Anyone seen 'Lorenzo' around? I'm sure he'd like to know i'm posting again.
jonny football hero
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Question : how'd it happen?
check_mate_kid_uk
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i do not know if this had already been mentioned in this thread as i did not read all the replys, but i will tell you somthing...you are not an exception to the rule, the rule is not that if you make a girlfreind of a freind it will not work, it is that if you split up it is very lightly that you will no longer be best freinds.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
She had known i've always had a thing for her, because thats how i first started getting close to her. The only problem was she had a boyfriend when we first started talking. And then she broke up with him and was single for quite a while. I think she got kinda lonely and realized we had something special, so decided to go with it?
She had told a friend of hers who's a friend of mine that she thought it'd be weird just kissing me. Well we kinda kissed a few times being drunk. And then eventually it didn't feel weird kissing sober because we'd done it before. I guess alcohol kinda helped me out there but i'm pretty sure it would have happened anyway.
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There are no rules...
mad dumbasses in the joint these days.
sosuave is really going down the drain. seems like all the people that knew what they were talking about stopped posting here.
Alright listen dude. There are reasons for everything. First off, you have to have a ****ing definiton of what "friend" is. I have mind and use it to make logical references when asked about the friend zone.
So what i say to you is this, YOU WERE NOT IN THE FRIEND ZONE. ANd thereby you are an exception to nothing.
Jester always ends posts.
sosuave is really going down the drain. seems like all the people that knew what they were talking about stopped posting here.
Alright listen dude. There are reasons for everything. First off, you have to have a ****ing definiton of what "friend" is. I have mind and use it to make logical references when asked about the friend zone.
So what i say to you is this, YOU WERE NOT IN THE FRIEND ZONE. ANd thereby you are an exception to nothing.
Jester always ends posts.
Canadianpimpology
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Only the Matrix.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.