“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I almost got laid tonight

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I just came home and there's a lot to digest here.

So there's this really cute girl I met on tinder and we've been chatting and finally met up tonight. To make a long story short, she's totally into it and she wants to go back to her place since it was closer than where I live. That was a huge mistake.

We had to sneak in to the front door. She told me that her mom was asleep in the other room and we had to be quite; my better judgment was already telling myself, "no, just go back to your place and she can spend the night."

We were doing some foreplay, and eventually we started to get right to it. I was in her puzzy for about ten seconds, and then some dude named Mark starts blowing up her phone. She puts it on silent, and right about when we started going at it again, her mom starts banging on the door. Her mom was yelling at her, and I could hear some dude saying that "I'm gonna kill him" in the living room. Her mom goes "open the fvcking door right now," and "he better not be jumping out the window."

We put our clothes on, and she unlocks her door, and says, "who the fvck is this?" I look around the corner and see this big dude yelling at me, probably mid 20's, roughly 6'3" ish and probably 250 or so pounds. Her mom backs this dude away, so I head out the front door and he follows me, and then gets into an argument with her mom. I jumped in my truck at got the fvck out of there.
 

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So, being in her for ten or so seconds I don't think counts as a lay, but just to let everyone know, this girl was a solid 7/10, 20 years old, pretty eyes, cute as hell, about 5' even and 100 or so pounds. She knew I was 42. She still thought I looked good though, and she was totally into me.

She told me that she does like to date older men.

So there's your example of a 22 year age gap, almost lay. Ladies and gentlemen, yes it can be done.
 

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So, being in her for ten or so seconds I don't think counts as a lay.

So there's your example of a 22 year age gap, almost lay. Ladies and gentlemen, yes it can be done.
Lol, nice read. I'd count it as a lay in my dictionary.

I've been talking sporadically to a 28-year-old chick who lives in another city, about an hour away, and she's already given me **** twice about my age (which isn't THAT different), although I've been teasing her about other things.

I basically told her, "I'm for exquisite and refined tastes, not the untrained." She laughed.
 

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I just came home and there's a lot to digest here.

So there's this really cute girl I met on tinder and we've been chatting and finally met up tonight. To make a long story short, she's totally into it and she wants to go back to her place since it was closer than where I live. That was a huge mistake.

We had to sneak in to the front door. She told me that her mom was asleep in the other room and we had to be quite; my better judgment was already telling myself, "no, just go back to your place and she can spend the night."

We were doing some foreplay, and eventually we started to get right to it. I was in her puzzy for about ten seconds, and then some dude named Mark starts blowing up her phone. She puts it on silent, and right about when we started going at it again, her mom starts banging on the door. Her mom was yelling at her, and I could hear some dude saying that "I'm gonna kill him" in the living room. Her mom goes "open the fvcking door right now," and "he better not be jumping out the window."

We put our clothes on, and she unlocks her door, and says, "who the fvck is this?" I look around the corner and see this big dude yelling at me, probably mid 20's, roughly 6'3" ish and probably 250 or so pounds. Her mom backs this dude away, so I head out the front door and he follows me, and then gets into an argument with her mom. I jumped in my truck at got the fvck out of there.
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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So, being in her for ten or so seconds I don't think counts as a lay, but just to let everyone know, this girl was a solid 7/10, 20 years old, pretty eyes, cute as hell, about 5' even and 100 or so pounds. She knew I was 42. She still thought I looked good though, and she was totally into me.

She told me that she does like to date older men.

So there's your example of a 22 year age gap, almost lay. Ladies and gentlemen, yes it can be done.
That’s a lay bro. Once it’s in it’s in.
 

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I just came home and there's a lot to digest here.

So there's this really cute girl I met on tinder and we've been chatting and finally met up tonight. To make a long story short, she's totally into it and she wants to go back to her place since it was closer than where I live. That was a huge mistake.

We had to sneak in to the front door. She told me that her mom was asleep in the other room and we had to be quite; my better judgment was already telling myself, "no, just go back to your place and she can spend the night."

We were doing some foreplay, and eventually we started to get right to it. I was in her puzzy for about ten seconds, and then some dude named Mark starts blowing up her phone. She puts it on silent, and right about when we started going at it again, her mom starts banging on the door. Her mom was yelling at her, and I could hear some dude saying that "I'm gonna kill him" in the living room. Her mom goes "open the fvcking door right now," and "he better not be jumping out the window."

We put our clothes on, and she unlocks her door, and says, "who the fvck is this?" I look around the corner and see this big dude yelling at me, probably mid 20's, roughly 6'3" ish and probably 250 or so pounds. Her mom backs this dude away, so I head out the front door and he follows me, and then gets into an argument with her mom. I jumped in my truck at got the fvck out of there.
Out of curiosity, did you not know that she lives with her parents? Why wouldn't you insist on going to your place instead?
 

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She told me that she does like to date older men.
Some do, some don't. Some say they don't but will it do it anyway if it's the right guy.

So who was the guy? Some boyfriend?
 

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There's some things that I should clarify and some things I want to go into some more detail.

Some of the things I liked about her was that she was different, like her style was sort of anti-social, and she was a bit of a wall flower, but she was also super chill. I felt comfortable around her. She's different than most young women her age for sure. She's a solid 7/10, pretty face and overall cute. She had dated older men before. She has at least three orbiters, one is a rich dude that keeps buying her stuff, and two other guys; I'm not sure if this 'Mark' guy is one of them.

How I think the whole incident unfolded was like this: We thought we were going into her house with her mom asleep, but she wasn't, caught a glimpse of me. Her mom didn't like the looks of me and wanted me out of the house, and instead of doing it herself, I think she called 'Mark' to come over for the muscle of handle me. I don't know if Mark is a boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, or an orbiter, but her mom thought he would be the right guy to stir up the situation; she also later on handled him well later on in the situation. I think her mom told Mark that I was getting ready to fvck her daughter and that's why Mark blew up her phone and made it there in about 30 minutes.

The foreplay was close to perfect. I was touching her in the right places and there was some good intimacy. I was in her for more than ten seconds actually. At that point I lose track of time but I'm pretty sure I was in her for more than ten seconds; I said ten seconds as a bit of an exaggeration. I was raw dogging her and she felt really good, almost perfect. She was moaning like a cute freak. There's some details that I'm not sure I can share on this forum, but I'm sure most of you can imagine.

The reason why I say that this doesn't count as a lay is because I didn't bust. I would say that it felt like I was close to halfway there though. I also don't feel like it lasted long enough, but close. All I needed was five minutes with her I think

Once Mark got there, her mom let him in the house and then she came to the door and tried to open it. Luckily the door was locked, because Mark and her mom would have seen both of use butt naked. I felt comfortable because I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong, and I felt comfortable enough with my muay thai training. However I thought the best course of action was just get the heck out of dodge. If the police came, there would already be two witnesses against me. There could have been more people showing up. There was some mom/daughter dynamic drama going on too that I didn't want to get involved in. Running way from the situation makes me look like a pvssy but all things considered it was the right move. There was nothing that I could do to make that situation any better.

Why did I not go to my place? She told me that her mom was cool in the past with her taking her any of her boyfriends back to her room. She told me that she was dating an older guy for some months before and her mom was cool with it. In hindsight, I don't think I was getting the full story.

More and more I'm learning the lesson that I should expect people to be hostile to my sexual preferences, and that I need to be more discreet, like taking her back to my place, and not letting either the girl's friends or parents to know about it until she's attached enough to me that I don't have to worry about any of them pulling her away from me. There's been several occasions that I've approached young women in groups, only to be clockblocked by her friends. The type of young women who might be into a guy like me are going to be a bit different than the typical mold, and I have to be able to isolate her, at least at first.
 

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There's some things that I should clarify and some things I want to go into some more detail.

Some of the things I liked about her was that she was different, like her style was sort of anti-social, and she was a bit of a wall flower, but she was also super chill. I felt comfortable around her. She's different than most young women her age for sure. She's a solid 7/10, pretty face and overall cute. She had dated older men before. She has at least three orbiters, one is a rich dude that keeps buying her stuff, and two other guys; I'm not sure if this 'Mark' guy is one of them.

How I think the whole incident unfolded was like this: We thought we were going into her house with her mom asleep, but she wasn't, caught a glimpse of me. Her mom didn't like the looks of me and wanted me out of the house, and instead of doing it herself, I think she called 'Mark' to come over for the muscle of handle me. I don't know if Mark is a boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, or an orbiter, but her mom thought he would be the right guy to stir up the situation; she also later on handled him well later on in the situation. I think her mom told Mark that I was getting ready to fvck her daughter and that's why Mark blew up her phone and made it there in about 30 minutes.

The foreplay was close to perfect. I was touching her in the right places and there was some good intimacy. I was in her for more than ten seconds actually. At that point I lose track of time but I'm pretty sure I was in her for more than ten seconds; I said ten seconds as a bit of an exaggeration. I was raw dogging her and she felt really good, almost perfect. She was moaning like a cute freak. There's some details that I'm not sure I can share on this forum, but I'm sure most of you can imagine.

The reason why I say that this doesn't count as a lay is because I didn't bust. I would say that it felt like I was close to halfway there though. I also don't feel like it lasted long enough, but close. All I needed was five minutes with her I think

Once Mark got there, her mom let him in the house and then she came to the door and tried to open it. Luckily the door was locked, because Mark and her mom would have seen both of use butt naked. I felt comfortable because I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong, and I felt comfortable enough with my muay thai training. However I thought the best course of action was just get the heck out of dodge. If the police came, there would already be two witnesses against me. There could have been more people showing up. There was some mom/daughter dynamic drama going on too that I didn't want to get involved in. Running way from the situation makes me look like a pvssy but all things considered it was the right move. There was nothing that I could do to make that situation any better.

Why did I not go to my place? She told me that her mom was cool in the past with her taking her any of her boyfriends back to her room. She told me that she was dating an older guy for some months before and her mom was cool with it. In hindsight, I don't think I was getting the full story.

More and more I'm learning the lesson that I should expect people to be hostile to my sexual preferences, and that I need to be more discreet, like taking her back to my place, and not letting either the girl's friends or parents to know about it until she's attached enough to me that I don't have to worry about any of them pulling her away from me. There's been several occasions that I've approached young women in groups, only to be clockblocked by her friends. The type of young women who might be into a guy like me are going to be a bit different than the typical mold, and I have to be able to isolate her, at least at first.
IMO we call it a lay once your d*ck goes in her pvssy
 

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Why did I not go to my place? She told me that her mom was cool in the past with her taking her any of her boyfriends back to her room. She told me that she was dating an older guy for some months before and her mom was cool with it. In hindsight, I don't think I was getting the full story.
Obviously, she was lying. If her mom is cool, why do you need to sneak in while she's sleeping and lock the bedroom door? (And on second thought, why does the girl need a lock on her bedroom door if she's living with her mom??)

At 42, you shouldn't be sneaking into a girl's bedroom past her parents lol. That's high school level stuff. You also want to control your environment as much as possible. The situation that you described was extremely dangerous and could have led to tragic results if "Mark" was even crazier than he is and had a gun.
 

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There's been several occasions that I've approached young women in groups, only to be clockblocked by her friends.
if ur 42 and look 42 yeah there’s going to be some pushback from her peers (and her mom in this instance). even if the girl u approached likes you and ur doing nothing weird.
 

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This is why logistics are so important. Always set a date that's closer to your place than hers to avoid BS like this.

I literally have a bar within walking distance and there are multiple bars within 3-10 minutes by Uber. This is something OP should have handled or figured out in his 30s. If you live in an area that's not conducive to this then I understand, but still this really could have been avoided.
 

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Always set a date that's closer to your place than hers to avoid BS like this
generally a good idea. however one thing i do with girls that i get a feel won’t just come straight to my place is find out the general area where they live. and then i pick a spot near theirs. why? my philosophy is that a girl you haven’t slept yet has bare minimum investment in you so u want to make it as easy as possible to say yes to. picking a spot that makes it easy for her to say yes to (because it’s so close to her), is a easier than having her take an uber 10-20 minutes to somewhere closer to where you live. not only is it frictionless, but removes that potential stigma in her head that “he’s picking this place 20 mins away from me because he intends on inviting back to his place after this”. then on the date, you uber from the spot to ur place. only fvck up i see her was her saying her mom was cool with her bring over a guy (and maybe she is. but a guy 20+ years older than her daughter? idk bout that lol).
 

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generally a good idea. however one thing i do with girls that i get a feel won’t just come straight to my place is find out the general area where they live. and then i pick a spot near theirs. why? my philosophy is that a girl you haven’t slept yet has bare minimum investment in you so u want to make it as easy as possible to say yes to. picking a spot that makes it easy for her to say yes to (because it’s so close to her), is a easier than having her take an uber 10-20 minutes to somewhere closer to where you live. not only is it frictionless, but removes that potential stigma in her head that “he’s picking this place 20 mins away from me because he intends on inviting back to his place after this”. then on the date, you uber from the spot to ur place. only fvck up i see her was her saying her mom was cool with her bring over a guy (and maybe she is. but a guy 20+ years older than her daughter? idk bout that lol).
Dunno man, even the idea that her mother left a guy to enter her place in the middle of the night to potentially beat a guy for sleeping with her daughter sounds a bit like crazy dynamic inside that house

not to mention the idea of her mom called the guy to come and beat the OP in the middle of the night, is even crazier
 
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